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Not sure I was looking for apologies I'm not sure it's not the self-identified 'real' fans as much as the musicians that circle those wagons I've not followed hip hop's development (fear I got too old....) and I can understand what you're saying about the re-synthesis of the Jazz influence. I just listened to 'Pimp...' on Spotify since posting my earlier post and enjoyed it and will listen again Kamasi's throwback definitely but has its own energy I think and at least some merit on its own terms. (But it doesn't compare to Davis/Dickerson, little does...I find)

I like the idea that artists such as Flying Lotus (although I'm unsure that his family connections are really relevant) and Kendrick Lamarr are being discussed here. I've struggled to connect with their music but that doesn't, for me, automatically deny the potential of a lineage or connection with Jazz (I heard that in other earlier hip hop with Gang Star, Digables etc) and I remain open to discovering that connection with more exposure to their work. It seems to me that some of the response to Washington is based on a fear of populism as much as anything else. Here's someone playing Jazz and getting a degree of attention and 'buzz' but I think I detect discomfort as much with that buzz as there is with his music. So much of the wailing and gnashing of teeth with regards to the unpopularity of Jazz and its future seems so often predicated on a very limited definition of what Jazz is and the despair is often coded with criticism of more popular 'sub genres' of the music (i.e. fusion, soul jazz, jazz influenced hip hop etc). To the 'keepers of the flame' it would seem that the very step away from the 'tradition' that can attract more ears is the one step beyond. The wagons are being circled in a decreasingly tight circumference whilst the rest of the world gets on making music and not worrying about the existential threat that the defenders are so concerned about. JSngry in post #4 nailed it for me. He seemingly hears Washington's music for what it is and understands that it's not really aimed at those of us on this esteemed board and that it has potential to reach a different, and possibly wider audience. Something I think we should celebrate There's something oddly applicable that I'm posting this listening to Synovial Joints by Steve Coleman. An artist who for me has always opened his ears beyond Jazz (and definitely to hip hop amongst other genres and traditions) and created a music that's highly original and is both Jazz and not-Jazz. To paraphrase ep1str0phy sooner or later we'll be sadly out of Steve Colemans and Coleman proteges, and then who will we listen to? And what are we going to play?

No synth strings that I can hear on my copy of the album. Full string section credited and I've no reason to believe it isn't playing. Maybe your copy is different?

Yep. Posted these thoughts on the 'listening' thread after my first run through the 3 discs a couple of days ago Not a lot of it is very original but they mine the 'spiritual' Jazz/Strata East seam with great aplomb. Vocals, choirs, strings and big production provide a convincing backdrop to some solid playing. Three hours was always going to be too long though. Interesting that it seems to be being marketed as much to non-jazz fans with its Brainfeeder kudos and FL connections. It'll bring some new ears to Sanders, Coltrane etc etc I suspect. A good thing and....not enough Dwight Trible. If you've got him, use him and now I'll add..... I think the 'buzz' is clever. It certainly seems to be being marketed at a wider audience than just the Jazz crowd. Good luck to them. I predict it will receive a backlash from the 'keepers of the Jazz flame' for the way it's presented as much as for the music. I hope I'm wrong. The music is certainly not above criticism. It's not shy with its influences and in many cases those influences did it better. That said it's a fun listen (if a bit long)

Only 192 pages. Seems light to me but I enjoy Morton's writing so will wait and see what he does with the pages

Joe McPhee - Graphics [Hat Art] new arrival. lovely stuff

I'm tempted by that one but wonder whether the 2CDs is too much for a duet. I'd be interested in your views, if you've time It's on the way to me from Dusty Groove. I'll report back once I have it. FWIW, I really like Knuffke. O.K. - got it. I think it's very nice. Knuffke is in fine form. Berger plays piano as well as vibes. As they say what's not to like. Thanks. I think I'll probably go for it. Berger on vibes is worth most entrance fees

I'll concur. Discogs is a good place. Many happy purchases and some good bargains. Just keep an eye on seller feedback ratings and you should be OK enjoy the Mitchell

Thanks for posting that Bev. A good read. Another 'name' whose music remains sadly undiscovered in this household. Something to be rectified

The rest of Clean Feed's latest new releases now listed on their site. Along with the Davis, I'm tempted by the Kuchen, Universal Indians, Lama/Badehorst and This Is Not Art and intrigued by the Hocevar and Sousa/Berthling http://cleanfeed-records.com/new-releases/

I'm with Jlhoots. As a Patti Smith fan (and I have no problem with underarm hair ) and an Ornette fan and would like to hear a collaboration.....as long as it was legit (I wasn't aware she had a new book, that's good news)

That would, of course, be the 'aspirational' Humpty Dumpty? Aspiring to be put back together again.........

Cecil Taylor - One Too Many Salty Swift And Not Goodbye [Hat Art]

Just no real surprise. It was about time something like this happened. It'll be interesting to see how Blatter manages to keep out of it Meanwhile, I'm settling in to enjoy the Europa League final this evening

Looks like colinmce saw this coming. Well it certainly takes the shine off the release now i know that Ornette/Denardo didn't give approval

Absolutely. On my list, near the top Made it. Stunning. A colour overload. I found the work with textiles some of the most rewarding. I'll be making a return trip to this one

the new Kris Davis release on Clean Feed looks fascinating. Four bass clarinets! nice video here

I bet that's good

England vs New Zealand proving that Test cricket is alive and well as an intriguing and exciting experience. Come on England!

a couple of Brotzmann LPs both on Trost Sonore - Oto Brotzmann/Heino/O'Rourke - Two City Blues 1

I'm tempted by that one but wonder whether the 2CDs is too much for a duet. I'd be interested in your views, if you've time

'Desireless' from 1975 s/t LP “Spjärnsvallet” (on youtube)

I'm sorry to hear he's unwell. He's been a major figure in my listening since my initial forays into Jazz when I hit upon the Silkheart LPs - I don't how but i'm mighty glad I did. I always enjoy his playing but also he writes such damn great tunes that can portray such emotion, often joyful, sometimes melancholy but always heartfelt. I tend to make contact with his current catalogue every few years. I've bought a number direct from him and he's always been a delight to communicate with So, setting the Silkhearts (inc. the Brackeens) as essential I'd add recommendations for the following Dallas-London Sextet - Catechism [Music & Arts]. Not least because I wish I'd been there (only seen him live once, playing solo) Spirit Meridian - Idle wild [Clean Feed] Renegade Spirits [Furthermore] A Matter of Blood [Furthermore] perhaps for me the single most moving album of his The Hymn Project [Daagnim] This thread will hopefully turn up some others I need to hear. I always mean to get the duet albums on Clean Feed and 'Hymns for Tomasz Stanko' I'll take the second lead on Old Time Revival edit to add: check his website for some samples

Jerome Cooper - The Unpredictability of Predictability [About Time]

I've a compilation '1967-1975' on Editions RZ and a reissue of 'Musici su Schemi' both of which I find rewarding but irregular listens. I'd be interested to hear of what those in the know think are worth investigating next. There does seem to be a number of recent vinyl reissues kicking around at the moment