Aggie87

Why the heck are you doing that when you could be over at conn's house using his computer? C'mon Ron, wake up! The beer is MUCH better at the hotel, of course!

I'm hopeful for my Aggies this season. The defense surely can't be any worse than it was last year, when they were ranked last nationally vs. the pass. They fired the D-Coordinator, and hired Gary Darnall, who I'm not sure is a good hire, but we'll see. He switched from a 4-3 D to a 4-2-5, in order to "get more speed on the field". Our d sure has come a long way (in the wrong direction) from the good old days when we lined up in a 3-4, and knocked the crap outta other teams. On offense, Reggie McNeal is finally gone (to the Bengals, in a "Slash" type role), so the QB is now Stephen McGee. He played well against Texas last year, and actually had us in the game. He'll do well, and many Aggie fans think he's the next coming of Bucky Richardson, if anyone remembers that name. I think we'll be fine on offense, and expect we'll become more of a running, grind 'em out offense again, in order to minimize the amount of time our defense is on the field. Also, we have a seriously weak non-conference schedule (The Citadel, Lousiana-Lafayette, and Louisiana Tech anybody?), so it's conceivable if we could improve even just a little on the field, the record could be significantly better than last year's. Gig 'em Aggies!

Oklahoma just announced today that they've kicked their starting QB off the team, Rhett Bomar. Apparently was being paid for a job he wasn't performing.... *********** From CNN/SI: Report: Sooners dismiss QB Bomar OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Oklahoma starting quarterback Rhett Bomar will not play for the Sooners this season following an investigation by the team, according to a television report. Oklahoma confirmed that two players had been dismissed by the team but did not identify them. The school said in a statement that the players violated NCAA rules by working at a private business and taking "payment over an extended period of time in excess of time actually worked." Oklahoma City television station KWTV reported that Bomar, who set an Oklahoma freshman record with 2,018 passing yards after taking over as the Sooners' starter in the second game last season, was one of the two players who had been permanently dismissed. Oklahoma City television station KOCO reported that Bomar's roommate, offensive lineman J.D. Quinn, was the second player. "We spend a considerable amount of time addressing our players regarding their personal conduct and the NCAA rules," head coach Bob Stoops said in a statement. "They know exactly what we expect from them. Ultimately, they have to make right decisions. The same holds true for our boosters. When they do not, the consequences are serious, and we will not tolerate this behavior. "Our team and university actions are necessary because of the intentional participation and knowledge of the student athletes in these violations," Stoops said. A top-rated recruit out of high school, Bomar redshirted his first season while 2004 Heisman Trophy winner Jason White completed his career. Bomar lost a quarterback competition to Paul Thompson last fall, but was named the starter after the Sooners lost to TCU in the first week. He started Oklahoma's final 11 games and completed 54 percent of his passes, while throwing 10 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Oklahoma finished 2005 by winning six of its final seven games, including a victory against Oregon in the Holiday Bowl. Quinn started four times at right guard last season but missed spring practice with an injury. "I firmly believe that our program is stronger than any individual player and that a championship program cannot compromise its values," Stoops said in the statement. Thompson, the only quarterback other than Bomar with experience at Oklahoma, was moved to receiver after Bomar became the starter. A backup in 2002 and 2003, Thompson played in a reserve role until he beat out Bomar last fall. In his career, Thompson has completed 42 of 73 passes for 428 yards. He caught 11 passes for 106 yards after moving to receiver last season. Other options would be Joey Halzle, a junior transfer who passed for 2,077 yards and 13 touchdowns in 10 games last season at Golden West (Calif.) Community College, freshman Sam Bradford and walk-on Hays McEachern.

Slight changes in the California shows (and the Boston location), per the PT website: Oct 05 2006 BOSTON, USA: Berklee Performance Center Oct 06 2006 NEW YORK, USA: Nokia Theater Oct 07 2006 PHILADELPHIA, USA: Keswick Theater Oct 08 2006 Washington, DC at the State Theatre in Falls Church, VA Oct 11 2006 LOS ANGELES, USA: House of Blues Oct 13 2006 SAN FRANCISCO, USA: Fillmore Also, the opening act for the California dates is now the Tony Levin Band. NY, Boston & Philly still have ProjeKct 6, as far as I can tell. And there are some September dates for Yurp, too: Sep 13 2006 CAMBRIDGE, UK: The Junction Sep 15 2006 PARIS, France: Elysée Montmartre Sep 16 2006 ANTWERP, Belgium: Hof Ter Lo Sep 18 2006 ROMA, Italy: Teatro Tendastrisce Sep 19 2006 MILANO, Italy: Rolling Stone Sep 21 2006 PRATTELN, Switzerland: Z7 Sep 22 2006 MÜNCHEN, Germany: Muffathalle Sep 23 2006 SAARBRÜCKEN, Germany: Garage Sep 25 2006 HAMBURG, Germany: Große Freiheit 36 Sep 26 2006 ESSEN, Germany: Weststadthalle Sep 27 2006 AMSTERDAM, The Netherlands: Paradiso Sep 29 2006 LONDON, UK: Astoria Sep 30 2006 MANCHESTER, UK: Manchester University, Oxford Road Oct 01 2006 GLASGOW, UK: Carling Academy edited to add Oct 8 show in Washington DC (w/ProjeKct 6)

According to jazzdisco.org, here is the lineup: Rolf Ericson, Richard Williams (tp) Quentin Jackson (tb) Don Butterfield (cbtb, tu) Jerome Richardson (fl, ss, bars) Dick Hafer (fl, ts) Charlie Mariano (as) Jaki Byard (p) Jay Barliner (g) Charles Mingus (b, p) Dannie Richmond (d)

Also, here's some additional info on the Medeski Scofield Martin Wood upcoming release, due out on Sep 26, from the MMW website: ******************** MEDESKI SCOFIELD MARTIN & WOOD ? OUT LOUDER It's a match made not above nor below, but rather in some altogether hipper place. We're talking John Medeski, Billy Martin, and Chris Wood, plus guitar guru John Scofield. On their new release OUT LOUDER, they make music not of this world, yet rooted in the earth tones of jazz, funk, and blues. Music from the heart, for the mind, and made to shake the earth, not to mention the body. Medeski Scofield Martin & Wood first recorded together on Scofield's A Go Go (Verve 1998), a disc that has become a must-have classic. That project united jazz guitarist Scofield with the improvisational jazz trio Medeski Martin & Wood on material composed by Scofield and interpreted by all four musicians. OUT LOUDER ? the inaugural release for MMW's own Indirecto Records label ? is Medeski Scofield Martin & Wood's first four-way collaborative recording. "A Go Go was John's record and we were essentially sidemen, where OUT LOUDER musically comes from all of us" explains Wood. Scofield adds: "We've always hit it off as a foursome, and I wanted to see what would happen if we did something that was a true collaboration, where everyone could play completely free." Recorded in under a week at Shacklyn, MMW's fabled downtown Brooklyn studio, OUT LOUDER reeks of the scruffy, spirited basement in which it was created. "Something about being down there made the music that much grungier," says Wood. "It gave us that feeling of being a hungry garage band searching for the coolest licks and grooves without worrying about making everything perfect. We could just let it all hang out. Everyone was set up in the same room with all our amps and equipment, and you could feel what everyone else was playing that much better and really react to everything around you." "Maybe 60% was improvising and writing together," recalls Martin. "We have a typical MMW style which is going into the studio without knowing what we are going to do. We just play together and something will come out of it. We tried a lot of different ideas with John, but the best things seemed to come out of improvisation." "We played, hit the vibe, improvised and collaborated a lot," continues Medeski. "We'd go back and listen, and expand our ideas into a whole new tune." That, and the four musician's yen for jazz, funk, rock, soul and reggae, go a long way towards explaining why OUT LOUDER's deep grooves and sophisticated harmonies beg for closer inspection while simultaneously making you want to get up and dance. "People connect with grooves and funk, they feel it in their gut," says Medeski. "We understand complex harmonies, but in the end we know that you don't have to play all those notes to connect with people. The groove and spirit is what connects with people." OUT LOUDER's first track, "Little Walter Rides Again," opens with perhaps the funkiest drum roll ever committed to tape, disc or thin air (?people may hate the disc," jokes Medeski, "but they'll still love that intro"), leading into a Scofield riff based on a line made popular by Chicago blues harmonica giant Little Walter. The tune is everything you could want from Medeski Scofield Martin & Wood ? an ultra-funky groove, sweet-and-salty guitar lines that stick in your head like peanut butter, dense organ grooves, and slippery bass licks. But that's just where the excitement begins. The following track, "Miles Behind," finds the quartet in full-on free jazz mode, paying tribute to Scofield's former employer Miles Davis' electric period. Wood feels that Scofield stepped out sonically on OUT LOUDER like never before. "It goes beyond the notes, it's the tones and the instruments he used," says Wood. In fact, for the first time in his career Scofield played a Fender Telecaster on a few tracks in addition to his trademark Ibanez AS200. Scofield lists the improvised track "Down The Tube" as a personal favorite. "It was the first thing we played after setting up, and it was completely spontaneous," he says. "At the same time it has a certain form, which came from listening to each other." Other tracks were developed through improvisation and subsequent development of those spontaneous ideas. "Sometimes we would play free stuff, listen back, make a song out of it, and then go back with that idea in mind and play free again," recalls Scofield. "I've never worked like that before. The music was all about surprise." Two of OUT LOUDER's most surprising moments, however, came in the form of songs that defy the project's overall free jazz aesthetic. "Tequila and Chocolate" is based upon a lengthy, structured line that mutates through a series of complex changes. In short, everything you would not expect from MMW, yet it works, thanks to a deep rhythmic groove and Scofield's harmonic navigations. There is also "Julia," a solemn take on a John Lennon classic featuring hymn-like guitar lines and Medeski's soulful keys. "It's one of those things that could walk the line between beautiful music and elevator music, and we took it in the right direction," insists Medeski. "I played a church-like organ line that gives it a sort of sacred sound." OUT LOUDER ends with an improvisation-rich take on Peter Tosh's reggae anthem "Legalize It." "What makes this exceptional is the combination of the groove and John's guitar sound," says Martin. "It is on the edge of being corny, sweet, and weird at the same time. The tune is there, but with a really edgy phrasing that could only come from these four musicians." And that is what makes OUT LOUDER so special ? it could only have come from John Medeski, John Scofield, Billy Martin & Chris Wood. And there is more to come. For the first time ever, Medeski Scofield Martin & Wood will embark on a tour (see dates below), showcasing their collaborative, instinctive sound. Look for them to perform music from OUT LOUDER and A Go Go, with several yet-to-be-released tunes poised to be thrown into the mix. Yes, this music does come from a deep, hip, funky place, and Medeski Scofield Martin & Wood are ready to take it out there and everywhere.

Duke - Tain is not on this recording. The quartet was Sco, Dennis Chambers, Gary Grainger, & Robert Aries on this particular tour. It's a very good recording though, and Chambers cooks!

As of today, (Aug. 2nd) the Coltrane Prestige box is still listed on the Concord/Fantasy site but the Bill Evans Riverside box listing disappeared yesterday. My fingers are crossed, I ordered the Evans box 5-6 days ago and the Coltrane box 2-3 days ago. Having to wait so long just to find out if they're going to have enough stock to ship my orders really stinks! I agree they are very slow. But it's hard to complain too much at the prices these are being offered for. If they were retail priced, I think the argument about their slow processing time would be certainly much more significant...

bump... If anyone is interested in the rare, 2 disc version of "Pick Hits Live", there is a copy on ebay at the moment. This one came out in Japan only, and doesn't pop up very often. I'm not the seller, but have a copy already. This one is being offered in the U.S. only...

Finally, some football! Hall of Fame Game (Oakland/Philly) - 8 pm EST, this Sunday!

I won't speak for Conn or how he thinks about the issue, but I never suggested anything about "equal guilt". My comment was in reference to Dmitry's post, explaining why it appeared to me that he knew beforehand about his partner's marital status. Yes, the married person who cheats is breaking their marriage vows. But the single person who knowingly has a relationship with a married person is also engaging in wrong behavior - ethically and morally. I think that person has to shoulder some blame for their actions - who cares whether it's "equal" or not?

The only thing that might suggest that to me is that you state your actions were "immoral perhaps". This seems to imply that you had some knowledge of your partner's marital status beforehand, but chose to engage them anyway. To me this is also quite different than believing your partner to be single. If you were misled or tricked into believing she (or they) were not married, then I don't think you should have any blame, unless you chose to continue the relationshipo once you did find out they were in fact married.

I think with the exception of one teenage board member, most of us do searches prior to creating new threads. It's considered standard protocol/etiquette on pretty much all bulletin boards. In fact on other boards (such as the Steve Hoffmann forums, and a couple of the sports boards I check out) they tend to shut down or close new threads completely when it duplicates a previous topic. Searching is not difficult, painful, or time consuming, either - there's a search feature at the top of the page, and you simply type in "Kenny Burrell Ellington is Forever", and it will pull up any thread in which that has been typed. Takes all of 2 seconds. Just trying to be helpful...

Gimme a break. What, I'm gonna search 2,000 threads to see if someone said it first? Can we talk about Kenny and Duke, please? Anybody? It's not so much checking to see if anyone has "said it first", rather it's to keep all of our discussion about a particular topic generally in one thread. It makes it a helluva lot easier to go back and find previous discussions, and add to them, when there is only one thread on a particular album, rathen than 7. Probably helps keep the database a little easier to manage (for the administrators) and helps improve search times and process times, too. I agree with Dan in that you have valid comments, and they deserve to be on the board. The placement of them belong in the existing thread on this album though, not in a new thread.

Borrowing and burning illegal copies of in-print music surely isn't helping anyone - the artists, the labels, or the mom and pop stores...

I don't have any of Kennedy's recordings, nor am I familiar with him, but at least he's not *yet another* singer-songwriter that BN is forcing down our throats. Looks like there are some good musicians working on this project (DeJohnette, Carter, Lovano) and there are some covers of classic BN material. I'm willing to try this out, over an Amos Lee, Keren Ann, etc., all of whom may be perfectly fine musicians, but still aren't what I consider BN artists.

Roy Hargrove - Nothing Serious Roy Hargrove/RH Factor - Distractions Martin Denny - The Best of Martin Denny's Exotica Nat King Cole - The Very Best of NKC Johnny Guitar Watson - Love Jones David Bowie - The Platinum Collection (3 discs) Alejandro Escovedo - The Boxing Mirror Mississippi Fred McDowell - I Do Not Play Rock N Roll Al Green - The Belle Album UB40 - Who You Fighting For?

Very sorry to hear about your situation, Paul. It will get easier over time, as do all things. A change of location may be a good way to energize you and help you start over. I was married for 8 years. I was 30 when I got married, and my wife was 28, so we weren't necessarily a young couple. But I think we rushed into the marriage without getting to know each other well enough, first. May have been a "biological clock" thing for both of us, wanting to settle down, have kids, and so forth. So I think we both had some blinders on with regards to the other person, not really seeing them as they were. As we began our family, we also began drifting apart. We didn't really have many common interests or things to talk about. After a while, it felt like we were roommates more than soulmates. My divorce was final two years ago. We have two kids, and share joint physical custody, meaning they live with me for a week, with their mother for a week, and back and forth like that. We live close enough to each other now that its not too big a problem going back and forth for them, or too disruptive. As they get older we'll see how the situation works for them. Personally, I'm alot happier now than during the last couple of years of my marriage. We considered staying together for the kid's sake, but ultimately decided it would be better for them to see us apart (and happy) rather than together (and miserable). I think we're better role models for them that way too.

Bumping this up to give props to our man Mark Sheldon... One of his photographs from the Segal fete graces page 16 of the current Downbeat (Aug 06, w/Dave Douglas on the cover). Way to go, Mark! And thanks for sharing your work with us on the board. Your images are wonderful, and give me that "I was there" feeling. -Erik edit - I could swear there was another thread on the board about this show, w/pics, but I can't find it. That's probably my fault as a terrible searcher though...

Better yet, let's get right to the source, and submerge G himself...

"REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE IN THE BEATLES? THAT WAS AWESOME!"

i think that may be more a description of the original poster's comments... PS - "F*cking"------> "F-ing"-----> "F-N"

...you hadda go there, eh? It was hard enough for me to pull the trigger on my new 2001 order, ya know! and i'll take a Bier over a Zimmer any day.

I saw an interview with his mother the other day, apparently they're Quakers or something (?). She had to ride a bike (in her very conservative clothing) over to someone else's house in order to watch the Tour finale. Apparently they don't own a car. Maybe the USPS Team should start scouring the Quaker & Amish communites for strong bike riders in the future