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Jim (JSngry), any thoughts on Blackstar especially(!), or any of the other 90's/2000's Bowie titles you picked up recently? Very curious to get your take.

I don't need this (I have one already, a really great set!). But if no one else here is interested, I'd probably be game to buy this as extra copy (and at a good price), to give to somebody else at some point in the future. I'll send a PM to that effect, but if anybody else has any interest in this one - please feel free! (And I'll tell Face The Bass to leave the Carmell available here a good week or two more, before we do anything to close the deal with me on this one.)

Trailer is out now... Main Source: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/02/don-cheadle-miles-davis-miles-ahead-trailer Shows bigger on desktop: http://www.milesdavis.com/news/watch-miles-ahead-movie-trailer-entertainment-weekly Still cautiously optimistic, hoping for the best, and (definitely) fearing the worst. Acting looks solid, but I sure hope the story isn't shit.

Very short review, but the picture is new (at least to me) -- and it expands to a huge format, with great detail. http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jan/21/larry-young-in-paris-the-ortf-recordings-review-elegant-reckless-beauty-on-unearthed-60s-live-tapes And then HERE's the most complete info yet that I've seen about the full release (about as complete as it gets)... http://www.resonancerecords.org/release.php?cat=HCD-2022 Including the first time I've seen track-times listed, FWIW. Over 100 min of music, by my count. Track Listing Disc One: Trane of Thought (6:46) Talkin About JC (14:53) Mean To Me (4:12) La Valse Grise (16:09) Discothèque (10:43) Disc Two: Luny Tune (4:36) Beyond All Limits (7:36) Black Nile (13:59) Zoltan (20:31) Larrys Blues (6:13)

Yay, one of George's tunes!! Sounds great!

Bear in mind, it may take a few spins for some of it to get into your bones. I didn't fall in love with all of it instantly, but over time (a couple years for each album), more and more has wormed its way into my brain. I'd stay away from Hours (which I find kind of tame, and a bit too 'pretty', and some of it pretty boring, to be frank) but otherwise all of his other ISO Records releases between '95-'04 are top drawer (I've grown to love ~80% of the tracks of each). By comparison, I'm only sort of 'half-in-love' (at best) with the earlier (pre-"Tin Machine") albums (including even his very most popular 'classic' 70's albums). And anything before Station To Station (which I do like, especially the tune "Stay") -- but anything before Station To Station just sounds horribly dated to me. (I've never been able to get into all the Ziggy stuff much at all, for instance.) Station To Station, Low, Lodger, Scary Monsters - those all work for me somewhat better -- but I'd still take almost anything from the 90's/00's over them too. As far as Tin Machine goes, I'm of two minds. When I'm in the right mood, it's really great stuff -- but I'm not always in that mood (and when I'm not, it doesn't do nearly as much for me). I seem to remember liking the first Tin Machine album better than the second. I only spin them once or twice every couple years, at most - but should dig them back out again soon.

I would honestly take all of Bowie's post-"Tin Machine" output to that perverbial desert island, over everything pre-"Tin Machine". Cat wrote some great tunes in the 70's and 80's, but he was better (all-around), and in his prime -- at least for me -- from about 1995-2004.

An on-line joke I've been reusing for 10+ years, is to say his "brother" Lester (without the quotes) -- and when the inevitable "you don't know what you're talking about, because Bowie's real was David Jones!!" reply comes around from somebody, I always say "what about the striking family resemblance?" Of course the reply-ee never has any idea what Lester Bowie looks like, and when I'm really lucky, I can occasionally string the argument along for two or three more iterations before they finally look. It's a pretty juvenile routine, I'll admit, but half the time someone will fall for the bait - which is why I keep doing it whenever the chance presents itself.

If I were to go with one release in particular, I'd go with Reality Live -- and specifically the 2CD edition (which is longer than the DVD). About half of it is newer (post-"Tin Machine") material, and is about as good an overview as you'll find -- plus a lot of great, updated versions of older material. LOTS of Bowie's 90's and 2000's material can be found pretty cheap, and MY favorites (in order), are: 1. Reality 2. The Next Day 3. Heathen 4. Earthling -- but, Jim, in your case, I might actually start with this one (his most electronica-influenced record). 5. Outside But, Jim, you really should get his most recent album -- just released Friday -- Blackstar. It's nothing short of spectacular. I think you can probably find full-length-album uploads of every one of these (on YouTube), and they're all on Spotify. I'd give 'em all a spin, and see what you think.

Full agreement here as well, though I recognize that may not stand up in court. Regardless, the court of public opinion can also come to its own verdict, and is well within its right to do so. He may never do time, but there is an enormous amount of evidence out there well beyond the "hearsay of just a 'handful' of 'alleged' victims". Personally, I hope the trial is as ugly as it gets (though I won't be following any of it closely), because I'm of the opinion that there's an overwhelming amount of 'smoke' -- as in "where there's smoke, there's fire" -- and that there should be as much of a spotlight on that smoke (legally admissible evidence) as can be, if there's any justice in this world (not that there necessarily is).

I've always been curious about this one too -- especially the version of Giant Steps -- can anyone recommend?

Pianist and Bowie collaborator Mike Garson... I was about to say "jazz pianist" (which is true), but honestly, his approach is really a LOT more classical-sounding, than 'jazz' per se... Pianist and Bowie collaborator Mike Garson is a really plus on a number of Bowie's post-"Tin Machine" efforts (including as part of a few of his live bands). I know Garson worked with Bowie in the early 70's and was on 2-3 albums (Aladdin Sane especially), but Garson also contributed to all five of Bowie's post-"Tin Machine" ISO Records albums (Outside, Earthling, Hours, Heathen, and Reality) -- and Garson also appears on Reality Live as well as another rare live Bowie CD called liveandwell (only available through the Bowie fanclub, but official, with live material from Outside and Earthling). Garson plays these MASSAVE classically-influenced piano solos (on grand piano, and grand-piano-sounding synth-patches), over skittering electronica-like beats and electric bass -- and there's NO reason that should even work together -- and yet it did, and beautifully. Bowie's voice was spectacular in the late 90's and early 2000's -- as good a vibrato control as ever in his entire career - and he was just a much better singer during that 10-year period (1995-2004), than ever before or since (though his last two albums are still pretty amazing, even if there's some more 'age' to his voice). Later-day Bowie was really something special, and really underrated, IMHO.

The rumors were largely put to rest when his 2013 album The Next Day came out, and to whatever extent they may have persisted (if at all), I think this new album, and the two videos just released over the last 6-8 weeks, where he looked great! -- probably squelched any remaining rumors entirely. This morning was a complete shock to me, and from everything I've seen on-line, to everyone else too.

Huge fan of his more recent work (everything over the last 20 years). I only got really interested in Bowie about 10 years ago, when I stumbled on a box set of his complete ISO Records output from 1995-2004 (Outside, Earthling, Hours, Heathen, and Reality) - which I picked up for a song. I have a smattering of his earlier work, but there are probably a dozen key 70's Bowie albums I don't even own (and never have). So, honestly, practically ALL my desert-island Bowie is from **after** Tin Machine (1990's and after). His newest album, Blackstar, had just came out on Friday last week -- and I was spinning it all weekend. I'm glad to say I heard it 7-8 times in total before I heard the shocking news on NPR this morning. I'll post some more thoughts later.

Good.

Just happened to listen to Conflict in the car ride across Missouri with my Dad yesterday. Hadn't heard it in ages, though clearly I've been a fan since I first started this thread well over 10 years ago. I'll have to check the liners when I get back to DC (which aren't with me at the moment), but I'm wondering how Andrew Hill ended up on this date, to say nothing of the rest if he group (what an amazing lineup). And was this the most 'challenging' (meaning aggressive-sounding) date Carmell Jones ever recorded? A curious cast, to say the least.

One of my very favorite Miles sets too, 2nd only to 2nd Quintet and Jack Johnson Complete (which are probably co-equal in first place). Miles & Gil is probably next after that. And oddly, though the BB set great for when I've got a lot of work to get done around the house, the Complete Bitches Brew *isn't* one I'm in the mood for as often. Anyway, the Complete OTC Sessions is really a monster, in the very best sense.

BTW, the alternate of the title track from Mode For Joe was a real eye-opener for me. Maybe I was just overly used to the 'original' - but this tune, which is fairly sparse (and almost feels through-composed) -- really shines in this new (alternate) incarnation.

Hot damn! Had no idea these had been recorded recently. I have 3 or 4 of her quartets (of apparently 7 total) scattered across as many CD's, and they're all fantastic. Will have to get the complete set soon. Thanks!!!

Same experience here. Highest recommendation, buy with confidence!

Track listing? Who's on what track(s)? Exactly what's in this thing? Could be very interesting, or maybe not quite as interesting. Hard to tell. Curious though.

7th paragraph, what's that about getting a call from Miles? Nothing listed for Cowell in a search of Plosin's "Miles Ahead" DB, so what's the author of that article in the link in the first post smokin'? >> Roach’s band was really “the beginning of everything,” Cowell says. From there, the pianist got a call to tour with Miles Davis, and joined the Bobby Hutcherson-Harold Land Quintet as well.

PM sent on: Andrew Hill - Dance with Death (BMG bar code) - $14 Andrew Hill - Grass Roots (hole in bar code) - $7 Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles - $3 Joe Henderson - In 'n Out (BMG bar code) - $3 Bobby Hutcherson - Happenings (BMG bar code) - $3 Wayne Shorter - The All Seeing Eye - $3 Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn (2011 remaster) (sealed) - $8 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (2 CD Experience Edition) (sealed) - $10 The Cars (sealed) - $12

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Old thread I found looking for something else. Bumping again, for old time's sake.