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Got my shipment while I was out of town, safe and sound. Back home from KC (in DC), loving the bonus material on Unity, of course... ...but the big surprise for me was the one previously unreleased alternate of the title track on/of "Mode For Joe". Two minutes longer than the master, and (I think) fairly radically different soling from Joe, but all the others as too. I can see how they decided the master take, but the new alternate has less of Joe's "pet" licks (and one in particular, especially, which always bugs me a little - since he does/did it so much). Anyway, between Unity and Mode For Joe alone, that's five more new solos from Joe, and four from Woody Shaw. Hot damn! Sound quality is excellent, and I'm normally not much of a stickler about such things.

Gosh, I'd forgotten all about the Diz for President stuff, and had never seen either of those pics. Thanks to all for posting them!

Did my part.

I've got almost 25 years of DB's, inherited from my uncle - complete, from April 1965 to about 1990. I fondly remember thumbing through them regularly when I was in college (late 80's), and was thrilled to have gotten them when he passed a few years ago.

http://kresge.org/sites/default/files/Belgrave_Monograph.pdf Don't know if this has already been posted, but this is quite a nice document.

I have most (maybe all?) of Belgrave's Tribe-related recordings -- but I'm wondering what of his sideman work specifically from the 60's and 70's is most important, in terms of space he gets to solo. I think the only other thing I have in that regard is the Curtis Amy side (literally one side) on Pacific (on the Select, and as bonus tracks on Katanga!). But other than that, I've never taken the plunge on anything else. I do seem to remember seeing his name come up on some obscure releases on the Dusty Groove site -- including some things that I'd never seen listed on-line in any of his other credits (i.e. All Music, or other on-line discographies). Did he ever record under a pseudonym? - I seem to remember super-vaguely a piece of Dusty Groove prose that suggested something like that. Anyway, outside of what he did on/for Tribe, what's the most significant Belgrave to pick up in terms of his 60's and 70's sideman work? (Thanks!)

Loved the concert last night! - my first Big O show, finally! I'd met Jim before at one of Janiva's gigs back in Kansas City (just before I moved to DC), but it was great to finally meet Randy after all these years, and Larry too!! Best of luck with the rest of the tour!

Phil Ranelin Reminiscence Wide Hive $5 Hell of a good record, recommended!!

Didn't Bob post here a time or three? - at some point (years ago). Not a whole lot, I know, but maybe a dozen times (total), as best I'm recalling. What was his userid? Would love to read back through his posts. I also recall reading some blog-posts(?) of his about some previously and totally unreleased stuff at some point. Maybe that Tony Williams pseudo-punk(-ish) band thing came through him? - the one with vocals. And I'm remembering something about a bunch of unreleased Herbie Hancock jingle-work (and some other way-lesser-known work of his, that he did uncredited, of course). And maybe a couple individual tracks that Miles Davis produced (but didn't play on) from around 1969? - that I'm vaguely remembering that Dave Holland and maybe Jack D. were on? Anyone have any links to any of that? Would love to read some more of Bob's writing in that more casual kind of context -- especially in light of events now. Always loved his liners, but sometimes there's even more personality that comes through in even less formal contexts. Always meant to try and chat him up by email at some point or another, about a tiny handful of specific and still-unreleased BN sessions (Knowing me, I'm sure you all can guess about which one in particular, which I think 'surfaced' through him), just to get his personal thoughts on it. Except, I thought he'd never consent to putting any words about it in print (even in email), so I had this crazy notion of trying to chat him up at some point at a concert (if I ever got up to New York), or maybe by phone. Opportunities no longer possible.

Thanks. They said they shipped it on May 13th (or maybe 12th, depending on the time/date difference) -- or I got the email that said that it had shipped "today" around 4:30am (Eastern) on 5/13. If it gets here, great -- if not, it'll be waiting for me when I'm back.

How long does CDJAPAN usually take to get here using their cheapest shipping method? They say 1-3 weeks (but it could be 12 weeks). I've only ordered from them once before, and I seem to remember it took a couple weeks or so - is that about right? Finally got around to ordering Unity (with the alternates), and also got Mode For Joe (also for the previously unreleased alternate) -- and hoping they get here before I'm out of town in early June.

Expletive. I didn't know Bob, but we all benefited from and know a lot of the work he did for BN -- probably more than I'll ever know. I understand more than a few things even escaped from the vaults (both legitimately, and in a few cases, otherwise), from him having liberated them -- and for that I'll always be immensely grateful. Barely much more than 10 years older than me is pretty darn young to go -- though as my father is getting close to 90 (and me nearly in my late 40's), my definition of 'young' has certainly shifted in recent years. Would be interested in reading a rundown of everything he was involved in over the years, *outside* of his own writing, recording, and performing. I'm sure the list would include 5x as many projects that I've owned (or at least heard) than I was previously aware of (or at least could remember). Big, big loss. RIP, RIP.

Belden? Oh man, 58 is so young, All my thoughts and prayers...

I think I used to have a CD with that very cover, what seems like several eons ago -- maybe around 1990-91? No recollection of it otherwise.

I'll be there in DC. My first Big O show, finally!!

I like Ginger Baker, but I would definitely have to agree. How Mitchell hardly ever recorded again after Hendrix' passing has always been a mystery, and a real shame.

I just noticed that the Wikipedia entry for Mitch Mitchell (here, the end of the section/paragraph entitled "Notable projects"), says: Really? That would either be news to me, or is one of several hundred things I once knew (but have long since forgotten). Any truth to this? (Of course the reference in the Wikipedia article isn't sourced, so it could easily be apocryphal.)

Reminds me I intended to DVR this, but assume it'll be playing all month. If only I can remember to look for it.

Tempting. I've given away 2 or 3 copies of this box over the years, whenever I've found used copies cheap -- and I'm lacking a spare at the moment. Not in need of one for myself, but before you trade it in somewhere for less than it's really worth (if it comes to that), give me a holler, as I could be persuaded.

Those Ed Schuller and Anthony Cox leader-dates are stunning (Dewey's contributions in particular), and Ethan Iverson's date is none too shabby either. I really LOVE Dewey's playing around this time -- very 'inside' in terms of timbre, but very 'outside' or at least 'adventuresome' harmonically. Some of the most evolved tenor-playing I know of personally -- challenging and approachable, all at the same time.

Also, Ornette's 1979 album "Of Human Feelings" swings like mad, in my book. (My favorite 70's Ornette.)

Thanks everybody. The big 46 - still mid 40's, right?

I'm the same way with Don, especially "Complete Communion" - which is nearly his pinnacle.

Another previous topic I started a few years ago... "Avant-Grease & Mixed-Meter Boogaloo: brainy stuff"

The most recent Sam Rivers Moaaic Select (his Florida big band), swings like mad! Same with tr group's only other (and earlier) release, "Aurora". Like if Arnold Schoenberg were writing for big band, backed by James Brown's rhythm section. Highest recommendation!!