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Jones and Watts were the best aspects of that band.

yeah I saw her a number of times in concert in NYC. Amazing musician.

as I understand it, the poem read on Fanfare is by Jarman. The poem on the record (not on the cover) of Levels and Degrees is by Amus Mor/David Moore.

Yes, I think you are right -- not sure about before that with respect to the saxophonists we're talking about. I agree with you to an extent about Free & Tristano, bu there are so many ways to play free that don't intersect with him & his ideas directly, it becomes a bit of an analytical shell game. Musica Elettronica Viva had a piece called "Chinese Food" but it wasn't necessarily take-out from Confucius, y'know?

yes, Halperin -- those NoBusiness CDs are excellent, albeit rather free. I suppose anyone who studied with Connie Crothers is tangentially part of the larger school, too.

yeah, the big band is something I had been thinking I needed to check out.

Sad news. He and Brian Jones were the most interesting aspects of that band, I thought. RIP.

Lenny Popkin is still with us. Carol too, as far as I know.

ah yes, know him from Wave LPs obviously. Richard Tabnik would be in that generation as well, or maybe a shade younger.

yeah, I have the US Emarcy pressing but the original Philips surely is a beaut.

yeah, I think you are right but he still played and worked his ass off! I suppose Dick Scott/Tox Drohar is still with us, as far as surviving Tristano-ites go.

According to London Jazz News, the great bassist, recording engineer, and visual artist Peter Ind passed yesterday at 93. He must've been one of the last alive to have worked with Lennie Tristano. https://londonjazznews.com/2021/08/21/rip-peter-ind-1928-2021/

been after a sharp copy of Rings for some time! Al-Fatihah and Le Temps Fou are probably the biggest holes (in terms of originals) in my collection. The reissues are nice but in 25 years of collecting, I never lucked out on first-state copies.

haha, probably -- Coltrane on Columbia!

original link is broken. Perhaps they pulled it?

ah, nice. It's kind of surprising that there hasn't been one since the Verve CD reissue of old.

yeah, I mean Jon Dale's piece for FactMag (21 pages of excavation) could not have been written in 1996 -- now we have YouTube links and anybody can check out the sounds for free if they want to. I'd say it is a good thing but I miss the days of blind buys and mustiness.

All these nice Verves but no Alan Shorter?

yeah I think all the Pinotti stuff has been wiped from the internet. He ran Qbico and Sagittarius A-Star as well as doing some other micro-run bootleg pressings. Print is the only way to keep things active forever! Thurston's list is enthusiastic, certainly a bit dated but it was the mid-90s and he was writing for an alt-rock audience that was mostly unaware of this kind of music. I have everything mentioned in there (including some stuff that was never released) and it took damn near 25 years to track it all down. The NWW list is even more of a challenge.

I regrettably let my Castelli booklets go in a move. The Pinotti lists were online, not printed out. The last one must've been in the early 2000s.

they worked together -- Pinotti also had lists, in addition to running the Qbico label.

no such thing as a dumb question!

he was a dealer based in Italy and had internet auctions and set sale lists back in the 90s/early 00s.

I think that might've been one of the first Japanese free jazz records I bought, from one of Emanuele Pinotti's old lists. Great album, haven't dug it out in years though!

my wife turned me on to Terry Allen. 'nuff said.