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On 5/17/2024 at 12:42 PM, Bob_Bobson said:

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Held off on buying this for a long time because I worried it would be too much (too early, too tinny sounding, more dance music than substance), but I've really been enjoying big band and decided to pull the trigger on a good Ebay price. It's really outstanding, and now I'm just coasting around Duke's entire library - the band was great at all stages! I love how my jazz palette has expanded over the years, starting with an old Art of Pepper CD my parents bought me in HS to bebop, hard bop and then backward to Louis and traditional and swing. I remember scrolling XM years ago and passing through the 40s station as a novelty - now it's primarily what I listen to in the car, lol! Ain't life grand? I look forward to continuing the journey.

Great post.

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11 hours ago, T.D. said:

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Following it up with one of my Mosaics whose price has cratered in the secondary market.

I was just looking at the prices on that. Just £50 over here, how do you rate it? It's more of a space rather than cost issue

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2 hours ago, mjazzg said:

I was just looking at the prices on that. Just £50 over here, how do you rate it? It's more of a space rather than cost issue

The music and playing are very good. Stylistically, many of the arrangements (IMO) remind me of Gigi Gryce.

Main thing is (and it's my opinion of many J J releases), it's overall on the "restrained" side of hard bop, almost like West Coast Jazz (which I like) sound in many places, not a lot of burners or hard-swinging pieces. Nothing against Bobby Jaspar (who's on almost all of the sessions) or Tommy Flanagan (who's on the majority), they're in excellent form.

I listened to the first 4 (of 7) discs last night, which have mostly Elvin, sometimes Max on drums. The last 3 discs add Nat Adderley on most sessions and substitute mostly Cedar Walton on piano (sometimes Victor Feldman), drummer mostly Tootie Heath. Discs 5-7 are more assertive in places.

Overall it's a really nice set, subject to the "restrained" proviso.

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42 minutes ago, T.D. said:

The music and playing are very good. Stylistically, many of the arrangements (IMO) are similar in style to Gigi Gryce.

Main thing is (and it's my opinion of many J J releases), it's overall on the "restrained" side of hard bop, almost like West Coast Jazz (which I like) sound in many places, not a lot of burners or hard-swinging pieces. Nothing against Bobby Jaspar (who's on almost all of the sessions) or Tommy Flanagan (who's on the majority), they're in excellent form.

I listened to the first 4 (of 7) discs last night, which have mostly Elvin, sometimes Max on drums. The last 3 discs add Nat Adderley on most sessions and substitute mostly Cedar Walton on piano (sometimes Victor Feldman), drummer mostly Tootie Heath. Discs 5-7 are more assertive in places.

Overall it's a really nice set, subject to the "restrained" proviso.

Thanks for such an insightful response. 'Restrained" and "almost like" WCJ actually make it more attractive to me. I also didn't realise Jaspar is on it, I rate him.

I guess I should stream the albums and hear for myself but this has definitely nudged me into the "buy it" camp. Now, that shelf space...?

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Listened (twice) to discs 5-7 of JJ. Also very good, some differences from discs 1-4. More bluesy and extroverted arrangements, sidemen also include Freddie Hubbard and Clifford Jordan. It's a fine package. Apparently the set was always a slow seller for some (presumably extra-musical) reasons.

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'The Complete Max Roach Plus Four Mercury' box, 7CDs. Spurred on by the Max Mosaic thread and about time I gave this one another spin. CD1 - sounding excellent, first time I have heard this set since changing the pre-amp.

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I wasn't sure if I really liked Artie Shaw.  A while back I gave his Centennial Selection disk a good listen and decided yes, this is good big-band stuff and quite a bit of it does swing pretty nicely.  And I've gotten into big band a lot in recent years.  So recently found a copy of the Mosaic and have been checking it out.  mbid-50f5326e-1986-4261-8acb-0f08df692e7

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