thirdtry Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Dameronia is the first authoritative biography of Tadd Dameron, an important and widely influential figure in jazz history as one of the most significant composers and arrangers of jazz, swing, bebop, and big band. He arranged for names like Count Basie, Artie Shaw, Jimmie Lunceford, and Dizzy Gillespie and played with Bull Moose Jackson and Benny Golson. This book sets out to clarify Dameron’s place in the development of jazz in the post-WWII era. It also attempts to shed light on the tragedy of his retreat from the center of jazz activity in the 1950s. By tracing Dameron’s career, one finds that until 1958, when he was incarcerated for drug related offenses, he was at the forefront of developments in jazz, sometimes anticipating trends that would not develop fully for several years. Dameron was also an important influence on several high-profile musicians, including Miles Davis, Benny Golson, and Frank Foster. Dameron was a very private man, and while in some aspects of his life he will probably remain an enigma, this book manages to give an intimate portrait of his life at a couple of key stages: the height of his career in 1949 and the brief but productive period between his release from prison and his death. Amazon has a release date listed of late December. http://www.press.umich.edu/titleDetailDesc.do;jsessionid=3AC8D1634367A0ECF24A488E2F55EDA1?id=22963 http://www.amazon.com/Dameronia-Life-Music-Dameron-Perspectives/dp/0472114131/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1349145395&sr=1-1&keywords=dameronia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 There's this one also, that I have: TADD: The Life and Legacy of Tadley Ewing Dameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Will be looking for that new Dameron bio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 . that´s sounds very interesting. absolute! and it´s not a "kindle" or e-book or something like this. it´s on paper! keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Looking forward to this! I was too late to get a copy of the MacDonald book, which became almost impossible to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is great news. IRRC the last recording Mr. Dameron released after his troubles was a big band date called Dial B for Beauty-ca. 1960. As far as his influence as composer, it is untold. Besides influencing all those people in his circle you mention with such melodic, lyrical, and swinging writing listen to all the TV arranging from that period-like it or not, they 'borrowed' Tadd's voicings. Especially the saxes. Listen to I Love Lucy. Tadd should have gotten royalties. As far as the people you mentioned I can verify one as correct. I had the pleasure once of talling about composing w/Benny Golson. I asked who his favorite writers were. His exact words were 'I was touched by Tadd Dameron and went from there'. Again thanks for posting this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is great news. IRRC the last recording Mr. Dameron released after his troubles was a big band date called Dial B for Beauty-ca. 1960. As far as his influence as composer, it is untold. Besides influencing all those people in his circle you mention with such melodic, lyrical, and swinging writing listen to all the TV arranging from that period-like it or not, they 'borrowed' Tadd's voicings. Especially the saxes. Listen to I Love Lucy. Tadd should have gotten royalties. As far as the people you mentioned I can verify one as correct. I had the pleasure once of talling about composing w/Benny Golson. I asked who his favorite writers were. His exact words were 'I was touched by Tadd Dameron and went from there'. Again thanks for posting this. Yes, Golson is very clearly in the line of descent from Dameron and only slightly less so, Gryce too. That 1953 band that Tadd led with them both and Clifford Brown must have been a very formative unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 There was another bio of Tadd years ago but it sold out quickly and I was never able to find a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is great news. IRRC the last recording Mr. Dameron released after his troubles was a big band date called Dial B for Beauty-ca. 1960. As far as his influence as composer, it is untold. Besides influencing all those people in his circle you mention with such melodic, lyrical, and swinging writing listen to all the TV arranging from that period-like it or not, they 'borrowed' Tadd's voicings. Especially the saxes. Listen to I Love Lucy. Tadd should have gotten royalties. As far as the people you mentioned I can verify one as correct. I had the pleasure once of talling about composing w/Benny Golson. I asked who his favorite writers were. His exact words were 'I was touched by Tadd Dameron and went from there'. Again thanks for posting this. Yes, Golson is very clearly in the line of descent from Dameron and only slightly less so, Gryce too. That 1953 band that Tadd led with them both and Clifford Brown must have been a very formative unit. Gigi Gryce is another estimable talent, player-composer. I wonder if he and Benny were in the Bullmoose Jackson band together. That had to be some band! I've been meaning to get around to reading Rat Race Blues. I hope it's not too depressing, since word is he was run out of the business when he tried to control and publish his own compositions and those of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 There's this one also, that I have: TADD: The Life and Legacy of Tadley Ewing Dameron I also have that, great book. Well, I´ll buy that new book too, might be interesting. I really love everything Tadd Dameron composed, arranged and played. Yes, I dig the way he plays the piano. He was something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 This is great news. IRRC the last recording Mr. Dameron released after his troubles was a big band date called Dial B for Beauty-ca. 1960. As far as his influence as composer, it is untold. Besides influencing all those people in his circle you mention with such melodic, lyrical, and swinging writing listen to all the TV arranging from that period-like it or not, they 'borrowed' Tadd's voicings. Especially the saxes. Listen to I Love Lucy. Tadd should have gotten royalties. As far as the people you mentioned I can verify one as correct. I had the pleasure once of talling about composing w/Benny Golson. I asked who his favorite writers were. His exact words were 'I was touched by Tadd Dameron and went from there'. Again thanks for posting this. Yes, Golson is very clearly in the line of descent from Dameron and only slightly less so, Gryce too. That 1953 band that Tadd led with them both and Clifford Brown must have been a very formative unit. Gigi Gryce is another estimable talent, player-composer. I wonder if he and Benny were in the Bullmoose Jackson band together. That had to be some band! I've been meaning to get around to reading Rat Race Blues. I hope it's not too depressing, since word is he was run out of the business when he tried to control and publish his own compositions and those of others. I haven't read Rat Race Blues either, but I have listened to board member David Brent Johnson's 2-part radio show on Gryce in which he interviews Mike Fitzgerald, author of Rat Race Blues. A great deal is said about Gryce's attempt to reform music publishing and the impact on him of the retaliation. http://indianapublicmedia.org/nightlights/gigi-gryce-part-1-social-call/ http://indianapublicmedia.org/nightlights/gigi-gryce-part-2-rat-race-blues/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 I suppose, if Gryce had been in that Bullmoose Jackson Band, Golson would have mentioned it e.g. here http://www.jazzwax.com/2008/09/interview-ben-1.html from a quick online search, it doesn't look like it... the only line-up of the jackson band that I can find right now is the first session here: http://www.feeeez.net/johnnycoles/discography.htm johnny coles, jymie merritt, golson, dameron (and at some other point also philly joe jones...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jostber Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 A story on the work with the book from some years back: http://www.cleveland.oh.us/wmv_news/jazz121.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I need this. I always felt a strong affinity to Dameron's melodies and then I found out I share his birthday - February 21 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 I need this. I always felt a strong affinity to Dameron's melodies and then I found out I share his birthday - February 21 .... and your first name is "tadd"... i ordered the book also. very intersting and overdue!! keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 Doesn't Paul Combs (who posts here?) have a Dameron book coming out soon through U of Michigan Press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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makpjazz57 Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 As of Friday, December 28, it is officially out! Paul Combs also states you might be able to find this in local bookstores and you can also purchase through Amazon.com. Or here: http://www.press.umich.edu/script/press/22963 Marla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 A rather hefty price tag ... but as a big admirer of Tadd's music, I'll have to get hold of this, eventually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bichos Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 i have the book since a few day via amazon.de. but no time to read. keep boppin´ marcel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 $50? Well, if you create a diversion, I'll grab a copy and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Oh, didn't think they'd have it ... amazon.fr is a bit cheaper at this time: http://www.amazon.fr/Dameronia-Life-Music-Dameron-Perspectives/dp/0472114131/ Guess I'll order it soon, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted December 24, 2012 Report Share Posted December 24, 2012 Do we know if a paperback version is imminent? Otherwise, I will spring for this. I've eagerly awaiting this book for many years, ever since I hung out with Paul to look at Dameron's cpyright deposits at the Library of Congress. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElginThompson Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 $50? Well, if you create a diversion, I'll grab a copy and run. Pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I downkindled it last night and started reading during a break at work today - first impression is very good. I think I will read through this right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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