colinmce Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 The Zeitlin is definitely one of the best Selects. If you do happen to miss out, all the albums are easy to find on vinyl, and two of three are on CD. However, the Select has a lot of exclusive material that is just as high-level as the LPs. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 ...and actually, I think the previously unreleased material from the Zeitlin Select is often some of the more/most interesting material on the set. Definitely among the more challenging selections on the set! Quote
JSngry Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I'm still not able to overcome the 40-ish year old memories of not being able to make it through any one side of a Zeitlin LP w/o falling asleep (not from boredom, just...I don't know). Ever. I'd be all, hey, this is nice, and then next thing you know, the tone arm has lifted and gone back home, the turntable's not spinning, I feel refreshed, and an hour or so's gone by. OOOPS! This was from a time when I hardly ever slept. Now, I sleep whenever I can, and sometimes more often than that. Can anybody endorsing this set guarantee me that I will be able to live a productive awake life while listening to this music? Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 The more adventuresome 3rd of this set had way, WAY more meat on the bone than I was ever expecting (about half of which was previously unreleased) -- in part because of energetic, interesting group interplay (the members of the trio bouncing off each other). And another third was still pretty tasty, mostly because of cool originals and/or modern standards I already liked. And the last third was a little more "sleepy". Quote
JSngry Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 hmmm...still not sure...especially after reading this review on the Mosaic site: Deconstructing Tony Williams When I saw that photo of Denny Zeitlin on wikipedia, you know the one, the old man wearing leather pants and a colorful blouse, I knew it was he who led young Tony astray. An admitted psychotherapist, Denny Zeitlin has been discreetly operating on the fringes of the San Francisco jazz scene since heaven knows when. Surely Miles Davis, and The Beatles had an insidious influence on the young talent, but I am convinced that it was Zeitlin himself who was the driving force behind the wasted years of what could have been one of the greatest jazz drummers in all of history. Maybe that sleep was actually psychotheraputic subliminal hypnotics embedded in the grooves of the LPs...and if so, how do I not know that Mosaic has not transferred them to these CDs? I do not want to end up with yellow drums. That should not be my fate in life, you know what I mean? Quote
sidewinder Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) The Zeitlin is fantastic, grab it while you can!! Ordered - along with the Handy and a few others. Blakey 'Hard Bop' now on Last Chance.. Obviously you got the last Handy set. Gone now! My copy is on 'reserve' at HQ along with the Zeitlin and it will be shipped once the new Roland Kirk vinyl comes onstream. hmmm...still not sure...especially after reading this review on the Mosaic site: Deconstructing Tony Williams When I saw that photo of Denny Zeitlin on wikipedia, you know the one, the old man wearing leather pants and a colorful blouse, I knew it was he who led young Tony astray. An admitted psychotherapist, Denny Zeitlin has been discreetly operating on the fringes of the San Francisco jazz scene since heaven knows when. Surely Miles Davis, and The Beatles had an insidious influence on the young talent, but I am convinced that it was Zeitlin himself who was the driving force behind the wasted years of what could have been one of the greatest jazz drummers in all of history. Jeez ! Not your typical Mosaic website review.. Edited February 21, 2014 by sidewinder Quote
Daniel A Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I got the Zeitlin an the Jazz Crusaders a month ago. Zeitlin is impressive, but emotionally a bit on the cold side. Like with Ahmad Jamal, I can appreciate Zeitlin from being a piano player myself, but I don't go to this material to get a spiritual experience. That said, I wouldn't want to be without this set. The Jazz Crusaders set, on the other hand, is all about getting into the groove and enjoy some straightforward and honest playing. Quote
Head Man Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 The Zeitlin is fantastic, grab it while you can!! Ordered - along with the Handy and a few others. Blakey 'Hard Bop' now on Last Chance.. Obviously you got the last Handy set. Gone now! Still available at Jazz Messengers...... http://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/6721/john-handy/mosaic-select-john-handy Quote
erwbol Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I ordered the Carter/Bradford Select from Jazzmessengers earlier this morning. Too risky waiting for it to go Last Chance. Quote
Ed S Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 Received my shipping confirmation for the Zeitlin set. Thanks again for the heads up Quote
sidewinder Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 Andrew Hill Select now on last chance.... Quote
erwbol Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I wish Mosaic hadn't used a bubble mailer to ship my Andrew Hill Select. Jazzmessengers used far better packaging when I ordered the Tyner Select last month. Quote
king ubu Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 I wish Mosaic hadn't used a bubble mailer to ship my Andrew Hill Select. Jazzmessengers used far better packaging when I ordered the Tyner Select last month. Had never had that happen ... but I'm not sure if I ever ordered a Select on its own. Anway, the Select outer boxes always were flimsy and usually too big, for whatever reason, so mine most often get crushed a bit after a while anyway. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 22, 2014 Report Posted February 22, 2014 Just ordered the Zeitlin ... Good man ! Quote
Justin V Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 After wanting it since its release on Mosaic, I've finally ordered Art Blakey's Hard Bop. It seems like the easiest way to obtain the material, as the material is otherwise spread out over three albums. Plus, it was previously not issued in stereo and one track only appeared previously in edited form. Quote
mjzee Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 After wanting it since its release on Mosaic, I've finally ordered Art Blakey's Hard Bop. It seems like the easiest way to obtain the material, as the material is otherwise spread out over three albums. Plus, it was previously not issued in stereo and one track only appeared previously in edited form. You won't regret it; great album. Some of my favorite Jackie McLean. Quote
king ubu Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 just sent payment last night ... had them put aside some for me ... now can hardly wait for them to get here (Hackett, Zeitlin, Handy, Mercer, Boogie Woogie and Toshiko) - will have to bribe the mis-guided self-declared "liberal" politics of monopolising imports again for sure, fegh em, but hey, the dollar is still cheap so I'm not complainin' too loudly Quote
David Ayers Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 I guess you get a Mosaic set for about the same price as a joint of beef. Food for the soul. Or for the shelves. Quote
erwbol Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 Carter Bradford Select just arrived. Quote
king ubu Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 I guess you get a Mosaic set for about the same price as a joint of beef. Food for the soul. Or for the shelves. Yep, I guess even two Selects, depending on how much beef you want ... but I don't got beef with you Quote
Leeway Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 hmmm...still not sure...especially after reading this review on the Mosaic site: Deconstructing Tony Williams When I saw that photo of Denny Zeitlin on wikipedia, you know the one, the old man wearing leather pants and a colorful blouse, I knew it was he who led young Tony astray. An admitted psychotherapist, Denny Zeitlin has been discreetly operating on the fringes of the San Francisco jazz scene since heaven knows when. Surely Miles Davis, and The Beatles had an insidious influence on the young talent, but I am convinced that it was Zeitlin himself who was the driving force behind the wasted years of what could have been one of the greatest jazz drummers in all of history. Maybe that sleep was actually psychotheraputic subliminal hypnotics embedded in the grooves of the LPs...and if so, how do I not know that Mosaic has not transferred them to these CDs? I do not want to end up with yellow drums. That should not be my fate in life, you know what I mean? Look at it this way: with the LPs, you could only get 15-18 minutes of sleep at a time, whereas with the CDs, you could get an uninterrupted 60+ minutes of sleep! Worth it for that alone. It's interesting: I've been to some pretty loud free jazz concerts, and yet any number of people will nod off before the concert is 10 minutes old. It's a pretty regular occurrence. There is one person I could swear goes for the sleep, not the music. Quote
mjzee Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 I often fall asleep about 10 minutes into a concert, movie, or lecture. I doze for about 5 minutes, then wake up refreshed. I think it has something to do with switching gears, transitioning from the day's work to really focus on the program. Quote
JSngry Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 I'm afraid of too much sleep...if that happens, then I won't be able to get to sleep. Quote
king ubu Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 okay, so who starts the "grumpy old men and their sleep issues" thread? Quote
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