Whole batch of Mosaic Selects and Singles running low

[Ed S]

I think it's hard to say what's going on right now.  Obviously, time will tell.  There seems to be a lot of sets on the Running Low/Last Chance list - currently 9 of the 25 sets listed on the site.  Makes you wonder.  We'll have to see what happens to other sets that were back ordered.

Can't say I did not see this coming, though.  Over the past few years I had been anticipating what we are seeing now and made regular purchases in the event that a final sale was announced.  While that did not occur, the issues identified a few weeks ago prompted me to purchase everything left on my want list - a total of 8 sets.  Three of the sets were back ordered, easing the sticker shock - but not the concern that even though they are repressing some back ordered sets, they may be doing small quantities - if the MJQ set has any bearing.  But given what happened with the Lester set where they ran short on trays and such - who knows.

 

Still looking forward to the Edwards set.  I'd be happy if Mosaic went to 2-3 sets per year in vinyl and CD.

[David Ayers]

There has been and will be nothing new in 2017, IIRC. Maybe two last year. So 2-3 sets a year sounds unlikely. 

[Ed S]

15 hours ago, David Ayers said:

There has been and will be nothing new in 2017, IIRC. Maybe two last year. So 2-3 sets a year sounds unlikely. 

I'm not holding my breath on any new set coming out, to be honest.  I'm really just hoping that the Johnson and Mingus sets I have on order will be re-pressed.  Anything after that is a bonus as far as I am concerned.

[Brad]

The Wilson will be coming out next year and something this year wouldn't surprise me. 

[miles65]

The Joe Pass and Henry Treadgill sets made a comeback on last chance.

[JSngry]

Ray Nance & Carmen Leggio Mighty Quinn Singles are back in stock, but good luck finding them through the main site!

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/discography.asp?number=LEGGC01&price=$9.98&copies=1%20CD

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NANCR01

[Ken Dryden]

The problem with selling Mosaic sets on Amazon is that they would have to raise prices significantly to make up for the ridiculous amounts that Amazon charges. It used to be 15% plus 99 cents, but I noticed they were taking a far larger hunk out of my sales. I have basically abandoned Amazon. Half.com was a great place until eBay bought it and ruined it. A lot of stuff that used to sell could no longer be listed. For example, they treated all cutouts as promos and banned them, even though numerous cutouts were to prevent retailers from getting credit at full price on closeouts. 

I think the main issue is that younger generations aren't interested in owning boxed sets, as they opt for downloads, streaming on Spotify or sharing digital music with friends. I'm not about to tell Mosaic how to run things, I don't blame them for dropping their printed catalogs, as they were expensive to print and mail. That's something many brick & mortar music retailers have let go, though I still get them from Jazz Messengers.

[Dave Garrett]

1 hour ago, Captain Howdy said:

I don't know why half.com still exists

They don't. Or at least they won't after August 31. 

Half.com Closing Frequently Asked Questions

[JSngry]

I never knew about the Carmen Leggio Mighty Quinn release. Looking forward to getting it. Leggio was (is? RIP or no?) a fine, fine player.

[miles65]

The Art Farmer single is now last chance.

[David Ayers]

On 06/07/2017 at 0:14 AM, Ken Dryden said:

The problem with selling Mosaic sets on Amazon is that they would have to raise prices significantly to make up for the ridiculous amounts that Amazon charges. It used to be 15% plus 99 cents, but I noticed they were taking a far larger hunk out of my sales. I have basically abandoned Amazon. Half.com was a great place until eBay bought it and ruined it. A lot of stuff that used to sell could no longer be listed. For example, they treated all cutouts as promos and banned them, even though numerous cutouts were to prevent retailers from getting credit at full price on closeouts. 

 

 

Well, the amount amazon charge is still pretty reasonable compared to a normal retail markup. Distribution costs money. If Mosaic used a proper distributor they would have saved on running that operation themselves and maybe reached more people. All too late now I suppose but - maybe there were other ways to go - ?

Edited July 8, 2017 by David Ayers

[David Ayers]

1 hour ago, Captain Howdy said:

Maybe by charging a higher price on Amazon and the regular price at mosaicrecords.com they could drive traffic to their own website. It just seems to me that a presence on Amazon is essential. If Joe Schmoe wants to buy some CDs by, for example, Ahmad Jamal he's going to go to Amazon and probably end up with one of those cheap European public domain sets and never know about the Mosaic box.

Although remember the era of the euromosaic - the sets licensed with Warner for European distribution. That came and went, but was the closest to mainstream distribution Mosaic ever got. There was a time too when amazon searches threw up Mosaic sponsored ads. All in the past anyway. You can stream the Mosaic Jamal now so buyers now are a minority.

[miles65]

The Olivier Nelson set is now oop.

 

[Brad]

Never did get the Nelson but don't regret it either. 

[J.A.W.]

1 hour ago, Brad said:

Never did get the Nelson but don't regret it either. 

Had it but sold it, too much stuff I didn't care for or didn't like.

[Bill Nelson]

I had the same reaction to Nelson set as J.A.W.  I'd much rather play his early LPs on Impulse and Verve.  

[bluesoul]

Got a shipping notice for the Mingus set today. 

[HutchFan]

On 7/18/2017 at 9:13 PM, bigbandrecord said:

   LP reissues came out in the late 70's on Fantasy/Prestige.....the sound on these are fine acceptable and at least it's real......@ 1991 4 2cd sets of this material was reissued with de-natured sound on the same fantasy/prestige moniker.  Fast forward to 2010 universal music Italia releases the same identical masters with the same crappy sound as the early 1990 reissues as an 8 CD set. This is what you downloaded.  The mastering probably did more to sap the performance of vitality than Ellington introducing every number.

Agreed. In this case, the LPs are CLEARLY superior to the CDs.

[AllenLowe]

On 7/7/2017 at 6:30 AM, JSngry said:

I never knew about the Carmen Leggio Mighty Quinn release. Looking forward to getting it. Leggio was (is? RIP or no?) a fine, fine player.

Carmen died some time ago. A wonderful, wonderful man.

[mikeweil]

On 17.7.2017 at 1:50 AM, J.A.W. said:

Had it but sold it, too much stuff I didn't care for or didn't like.

IIRC I'm now the lucky owner ... 

[miles65]

Gerry Mulligan and Rosemary Clooney sets are now last chance. The Charlie Parker Benedetti set is now running low.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

2 hours ago, miles65 said:

The Charlie Parker Benedetti set is now running low.

Um... what? Mosaic owns the Charlie Parker Benedetti set. Why would that be going out of print?

[crisp]

Kevin's point is that since Mosaic owns the Benedetti recordings the set should be available in perpetuity. To me its imminent deletion is the clearest sign yet that Mosaic is winding down.

[Scott Dolan]

1 hour ago, crisp said:

Kevin's point is that since Mosaic owns the Benedetti recordings the set should be available in perpetuity. To me its imminent deletion is the clearest sign yet that Mosaic is winding down.

Was coming here to say this EXACT thing. I just got the email and that is the first thing listed. 

The fire sale has begun. Only at full price for right now. 

[gmonahan]

2 hours ago, crisp said:

Kevin's point is that since Mosaic owns the Benedetti recordings the set should be available in perpetuity. To me its imminent deletion is the clearest sign yet that Mosaic is winding down.

Yep. I thought exactly the same thing. I'm wondering seriously whether we'll see that promised Teddy Wilson set.

 

 

gregmo