Braxton/Mariano "Elegy for a Goose" -- anyone have this?

[clifford_thornton]

I am inclined to say I have heard of it before but never seen a copy. Does it actually exist?

https://www.discogs.com/release/15827956-Charlie-Mariano-Meets-Anthony-Braxton-Elegy-For-A-Goose

[mjazzg]

News to me. Kind of intriguing

[T.D.]

24 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I am inclined to say I have heard of it before but never seen a copy. Does it actually exist?

https://www.discogs.com/release/15827956-Charlie-Mariano-Meets-Anthony-Braxton-Elegy-For-A-Goose

Joe Fonda was on this recording (if it exists 😉). He's (at least semi-) local, you could probably ask him. I've communicated with Joe before via his website.

Edited April 14, 2023 by T.D.

[Chuck Nessa]

I loved this credit - "Recorded live on November 31,1981 by Konrad Lorenz at Foie Gras, Paris, France".

Someone's goose was cooked.

[colinmce]

I have never seen nor heard of this. I'd wonder if it's even real myself. 

[T.D.]

2 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said:

I loved this credit - "Recorded live on November 31,1981 by Konrad Lorenz at Foie Gras, Paris, France".

Someone's goose was cooked.

Good catch! Took me a while to notice the 31 Nov. 🙄

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, good catch on the date. My buddy knows Fonda and is asking him.

[Niko]

"Konrad Lorenz" and "geese" isn't a random combination of words either...

[ep1str0phy]

This band is absolutely stacked, and I have my doubts that Braxton would pen something and name it "Geese Suite" (unless these are random track titles assigned by a bootleg producer). 

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, there's no way he would've called pieces by those titles. I suspect it is a boot of some sort.

[felser]

On the other hand

[Chuck Nessa]

Any foie gras fans here?

[Spontooneous]

The goose was flattered and came back for more.

Edited April 18, 2023 by Spontooneous

[clifford_thornton]

The goose got diverted:

[Onxidlib]

On 4/14/2023 at 6:32 PM, colinmce said:

I have never seen nor heard of this. I'd wonder if it's even real myself. 

This LP most probably does not exist. Discovered this at Discogs almost three years ago. I've asked Günter Sommer. He even went into his archive and he is 100% sure that he never was part of this recording.  The same question was asked to Aki Takase by the original submitter. She is sure never to have played let alone recorded in this line-up. The original submitter found this "release" (it would have been rather a double LP - tt 62:14) at the former website of Charlie Mariano's daughter. She insisted that this LP does exist but never saw it by herself. I strongly tend to believe Günter Sommer and Aki Takase.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Onxidlib

[mjzee]

There is a club in Paris named New Morning, and Braxton played there on September 8, 9, 10 & 11, 1981.  Hoping this is helpful.

https://www.newmorning.com/tags/3311-anthony-braxton.html

[JSngry]

Which daughter? 

[Onxidlib]

9 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Which daughter? 

I do not know - the original submitter of "Elegy for a Goose" contacted one of Mariano's daughters after I've mailed him wether he has this LP. He did not have it. He made a web-submission - culled data from the "Charlie Mariano Tribute" website.

[clifford_thornton]

All right, so as an LP or a CD it is probably fake.

[T.D.]

Looks like a hoax / joke to me. If so, chapeau to the perpetrator  , rather cleverly done IMO. 

[JSngry]

29 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

All right, so as an LP or a CD it is probably fake.

So, cassette only, right? 

[clifford_thornton]

HA! too late for an 8-track I guess.

[JSngry]

NEVER!!!! 

[Hoppy T. Frog]

Someone on Discogs commented that they asked Joe Fonda in person about this and that no such recording took place. 

[Daniel A]

On 4/17/2023 at 5:38 PM, Onxidlib said:

I do not know - the original submitter of "Elegy for a Goose" contacted one of Mariano's daughters after I've mailed him wether he has this LP. He did not have it. He made a web-submission - culled data from the "Charlie Mariano Tribute" website.

Isn't this against Discogs submission guidelines? You got to have a copy in hand to make a submission.