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    • I saw some live Chinese opera some years ago and that was wild. I had no idea what was going on. If I ever see it again I hope it's with someone or some kind of resource that explains it. Jarring, for sure. And not something I've revisited since, but something that I could see had depth. Kind of in that neighborhood, this Plugged Nickel set has always been a challenge for me to listen to. I don't seek it out either. I'm on the fence for this CD set. 
    • Jim, that is a really dumbass attitude.  Sorry but true.  Your argument boils down to if somebody doesn't understand this music the way I do, they are stupid, insensitive clods.  Brilliant Jim, and dumb.
    • Of course not. I understand the basics, but that's it  But I would never call it "noodling" or some such. Never. Because that's just ignuntass bullshit reflective of an ignuntass worldview. Period. A little bit of that goes a long way, and there's been more than a little bit of that for way too long. You can't expect anybody to like something, but the other side of that coin is that ignorance should not expect to go unchecked.
    • Yes, the perception was based on ignorance.  Congratulations, you understood what I was trying to say!  How about you?  If you listen to northern Indian classical music are you able to pick up all the nuances?  Do you understand the different sections and different rhythmic breakdowns of the piece?  Are you able to appreciate it as well as somebody who is into that? (Or substitute any other music form which you don't happen to be familiar with).  I'm pretty sure there is some music somewhere which will sound like nothing to you and fail to do anything for you and you will think to yourself it all sounds like much of a muchness - ie noodling.  Not because you are unthinking or the music is bad, but because you have no background.  Peking Opera.  Music in Japanese drama.
    • Now why would I do that? I decided decades ago tonir be that type of listener. I don't know if this is just an "American" problem, but music education requires critical thinking, and critical thinking has been disappearing across the board for decades now, and "pop music" has led the way. You know, you can enable programmed ignorance for so long before...never mind  And btw - this has nothing to with individual taste  Quite the opposite. It's about the refusal to develop any. Pop is not the enemy, the pop audience too often is. And btw, by your definition the perception of "noodling" is based on user ignorance.  Q E.D.   Speaking deconstructing Stella, that was underway before Plugged Nickel:  
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