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In regard to the Hank Mobley, I would be very interested to learn the set number received by someone who has recently purchased the set.

I purchased a second Mobley set earlier this year (as with the Byrd/Adams set, I sold my first Mobley set a few years ago), and the set number is 3211.

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In regard to the Hank Mobley, I would be very interested to learn the set number received by someone who has recently purchased the set.

I purchased a second Mobley set earlier this year (as with the Byrd/Adams set, I sold my first Mobley set a few years ago), and the set number is 3211.

Thanks, Hans. It seems, then, (unless Hans received a low numbered set that had been returned - not likely), that Cuscuna and/or EMI will let the lease on the Mobley set expire when it is determined that the set is no longer sufficiently profitable. That well may be years from now. For those of you who might be waiting for U.S. releases of the individual albums, it is interesting to note that only one of the six albums from the long OOP Lee Morgan 50's set has thus far been reissued in the U.S.

It has also occurred to me that the leasing agreement for the Verve Kid Ory set has already expired, but that Mosaic is sitting on a large enough stockpile to satisfy the set's relatively meager annual sales for some time to come.

J.A.W. Explorer

J.A.W.

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It has also occurred to me that the leasing agreement for the Verve Kid Ory set has already expired, but that Mosaic is sitting on a large enough stockpile to satisfy the set's relatively meager annual sales for some time to come.

I always assumed that once the lease expired, they had to stop selling the sets - regardless of what they had in stock.

I think you're right.

Edward Rookie

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It has also occurred to me that the leasing agreement for the Verve Kid Ory set has already expired, but that Mosaic is sitting on a large enough stockpile to satisfy the set's relatively meager annual sales for some time to come.

I always assumed that once the lease expired, they had to stop selling the sets - regardless of what they had in stock.

I think you're right.

I suppose that it would depend upon the particular lease agreement, but I don't generally think that this is the case. First, such practice would be extremely wasteful. Second, how does one explain all of the partial sets that Mosaic has sold to its customers over the years after the expiration of various lease agreements?

I do think it quite possible, however, that many of the lease agreements contain some sort of clause preventing Mosaic from pressing more than X number of sets just before the lease is set to expire.

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Ed S Contributor

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I think that at their discretion, Mosiac has negotiated the right to continue to sell some sets after the time component of the original lease agreement expires. The Woody Shaw comes to mind. I'm thinking JJ Johnson as well. I don't know about the Hans Mobley ( :P ) set, but my suspicion would be that this is one set that Mosaic would negotiate to go into "ovetime"

BERIGAN Newbie

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If only there was some way to motivate people to buy these things sooner than later (over the full time the set is available) -- instead of them waiting until the last minute -- then I think there'd be fewer people missing out when the time finally came for it to go OOP..

Well, Mosaic has never run with my brilliant idea....monthly payments...even if you had to pay the full amount before you could have the set....don't know if I will ever be able to pull the trigger on the $160 Mildred Bailey set(before shipping cost) but, if I could put 30-40 bucks a month in a "special" mosiac account, I'd buy a lot of sets I wouldn't be able to justify otherwise.(I know, I could just put the money away and save up for a set, but I'd spend it before I'd have enough) :blush:

Patrick Apprentice

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My Byrd/Adams set (ordered last Thursday evening) arrived today, #3245. Fabulous! Now if only J&R will honor me with some notice about my OJC order from two weeks ago...

tranemonk Community Regular

tranemonk

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Good job... As Ron S. will tell you.. I'm pluggin that Elvin Jones set...

:tup:tup:tup

Yeah... you may not get much sleep... :)

Got mine today! :P Number 3029. I combined it with the Elvin Jones set. It's going to be a long evening and a short night. :w

Bill Nelson Contributor

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Yep, I'm also betting the Elvin is the next to go 'Running Low'.

Xmas may be a little late this year. Good thing my birthday's in late August.

Fortunately (and inexplicably) most of Elvin's Blue Notes are no longer available as single CDs. Otherwise, one must look to Japan, right?

David Ayers Newbie

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Last year it was the Morgan/Shorter and Kelly/Chambers sets which sold out suddenly and quickly. In the past the same has happened for Ellington and Stuff Smith. The era of the leisurely countdown and waiting to pull the trigger is over! We are being given a lesson in life about hesitation... or at least I think we are, I'm not sure if I can to commit to that, ask me again next week, pros and cons, etc.

Son-of-a-Weizen Apprentice

Son-of-a-Weizen

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The era of the leisurely countdown and waiting to pull the trigger is over! We are being given a lesson in life about hesitation..

You're right! In these uncertain times, one must play good offense! Now's the time to get that Jazztet set! :ph34r:

Ron S Community Regular

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So why hasn't this set, 5 days after it went OOP, been enshrined in the sanctified "Mosaic Collections No Longer Available" list yet? Could it be some sort of Stalinist Mosaic plot to pretend that this set never even existed? :blink: Pepper Adams' mysterious absence from the cover takes on a whole new meaning. :ph34r: Definitely something to think about:

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king ubu

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Now's the time to get that Jazztet set!  :ph34r:

Only after Caiman have listed the Euro-box :excited:

Don't they have it yet? I picked it up in a (local) discounter three or four weeks ago, for around 65 eurozlotys. Haven't started listening, but I'm looking forward a lot!

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Now's the time to get that Jazztet set!  :ph34r:

Only after Caiman have listed the Euro-box :excited:

Don't they have it yet? I picked it up in a (local) discounter three or four weeks ago, for around 65 eurozlotys. Haven't started listening, but I'm looking forward a lot!

I'd say you got mighty lucky as there is no trace of this one otherwise going all budget on us

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I'm really glad I ordered my copy before it went OOP. I've been listening to it quite a bit in the last few weeks, and it just keeps getting better and better.

Disc #4 ("The Cat Walk" and "Royal Flush") is my current favorite.

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