Miles - On the Corner and Beyond

[brownie]

There were rumors that John Coltrane was one one of the sessions. A tenor solo on 'Besame Mucho' was attributed to Coltrane but Legrand denied it.

I just listened to it and thought it sounded a little as Harold Land.

Doubt it would be Land. He was not an East Coast regular at the time, the type of players that would be contracted for sessions like this.

Thought the tenor might be Seldon Powell. Will have to relisten to that track!

[Bluerein]

Is this the same Legrand in Rio which was just reissued in Japan on a Sony/Columbia CD (which I sold instantly because I hated it, corny and very dated to my ears)?

[brownie]

Yes, that's the one! Can't blame you for getting rid of it! Not really an indispensable opus!

[B. Clugston]

Thnink they'll do a box set of his last years at Columbia?

Unlikely, based on what has been said so far in print by Bob Belden and others. I'm hoping they will though get round to a 'Live Japan '75' box, with any additional material that can be found.

That would be a great set. The 1973-75 band was far more interesting live than in the studio.

[marcello]

I'd like to see some video (good video) of the '73 - '75 bands.

By the way, I hear Belden is trying to issue the set made at Duffy's (in Rochester) in '69.

[Rooster_Ties]

Just got my copy of the Corner box tonight, and put the first disc in moments ago. Had one of those 30% off coupons for Borders, which brought it down to something like $97 and some change. Still a little more than I wanted to spend, but I sure as hell wasn't gonna wait a year to hear this one.

Just started reading the notes -- damn, Belden's intro was penned back in April 2000? -- April 2000??? That's closer to 8 years ago than 7.

Edited November 11, 2007 by Rooster_Ties

[B. Clugston]

Just got my copy of the Corner box tonight, and put the first disc in moments ago. Had one of those 30% off coupons for Borders, which brought it down to something like $97 and some change. Still a little more than I wanted to spend, but I sure as hell wasn't gonna wait a year to hear this one.

Just started reading the notes -- damn, Belden's intro was penned back in April 2000? -- April 2000??? That's closer to 8 years ago than 7.

Belden's notes are excerpted from the previous reissue of On the Corner. The documentation is pretty lousy on this set. Why is there no mention of the Get Up With It tracks?

[skeith]

John McLaughlin is on how much of this set?

[king ubu]

I'd like to see some video (good video) of the '73 - '75 bands.

By the way, I hear Belden is trying to issue the set made at Duffy's (in Rochester) in '69.

There's some video material floating around, at least from 1973, but I haven't watched it yet, so I have no clue about quality (I think Vienna 1973 is one I have, I caught glimpses of it and it lookd... alright, I guess at least).

Duffy's 1969 is a bad-sounding audience tape that was part of the Lost Quintet tree wiht wrong speed (a corrected version was up on dime some time ago).

As for the presence of John McLaughlin on this box, here's Losin's entry:

http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Disco.aspx?id=CornerBox

The Complete On the Corner Sessions, 1972-1975 (Columbia CK7 06239)

Title: The Complete On the Corner Sessions, 1972-1975

Label: Columbia CK7 06239 (CD)

Number of Tracks: 31

Details: March 9, 1972; June 1, 1972; June 6, 1972; June 12, 1972; August 23, 1972; September 6, 1972; November 29, 1972; December 8, 1972; January 4, 1973; July 26, 1973; September 17, 1973; September 18, 1973; June 19, 1974; October 7, 1974; November 6, 1974; May 5, 1975

Note: Only tracks on which Davis is present (407:12) are displayed below.

Disc 1

1 On The Corner (M. Davis) [unedited master] Jun 1, 1972 19:25

2 On The Corner (M. Davis) [take 4] Jun 1, 1972 5:15

3 One and One (M. Davis) [unedited master] Jun 6, 1972 17:55

4 Helen Butte/Mr. Freedom X (M. Davis) [unedited master] Jun 6, 1972 23:37

5 Jabali (M. Davis) Jun 12, 1972 11:04

Disc 2

1 Ife (M. Davis) Jun 12, 1972 21:33

2 Chieftain Aug 23, 1972 14:37

3 Rated X (M. Davis) Sep 6, 1972 6:50

4 Turnaround [take 14] Nov 29, 1972 17:16

5 U-Turnaround [take 15] Nov 29, 1972 8:27

Disc 3

1 Billy Preston (M. Davis) Dec 8, 1972 12:33

2 The Hen [untitled Original A (take 1)] Jan 4, 1973 12:55

3 Big Fun/Holly-wuud [take 2] Jul 26, 1973 6:32

4 Big Fun/Holly-wuud [take 3] Jul 26, 1973 7:07

5 Peace [untitled Original (take 5)] Jul 26, 1973 7:01

6 Mr. Foster Sep 18, 1973 15:14

Disc 4

1 Calypso Frelimo (M. Davis) Sep 17, 1973 32:04

2 He Loved Him Madly (M. Davis) Jun 19, 1974 32:13

Disc 5

1 Maiysha (M. Davis) Oct 7, 1974 14:51

2 Mtume (M. Davis) Oct 7, 1974 15:08

3 Mtume (M. Davis) [take 11] Oct 7, 1974 6:51

4 Hip Skip [untitled Original (take 2)] Nov 6, 1974 18:39

5 What They Do [untitled Original (take 14)] Nov 6, 1974 12:00

6 Minnie [Latin (take 7)] May 5, 1975 4:01

Disc 6

1 Red China Blues (M. Davis) Mar 9, 1972 4:06

2 On the Corner/New York Girl/Thinkin' of One Thing and Doin' Another/Vote for Miles Jun 6, 1972 19:54

3 Black Satin (M. Davis) Jun 1, 1972 5:15

4 One And One (M. Davis) Jun 6, 1972 6:09

5 Helen Butte/Mr. Freedom X (M. Davis) [master] Jun 6, 1972 23:14

6 Big Fun (M. Davis) Jul 26, 1973 2:32

7 Holly-wuud (M. Davis) Jul 26, 1973 2:54

March 9, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Wally Chambers (hca); Cornel Dupree (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); Bernard Purdie (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Wade Marcus (brass arr); Billy Jackson (rhythm arr)

June 1, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Dave Liebman (ss); Chick Corea (synth); Herbie Hancock (org); Harold I. Williams (el-p); John McLaughlin (g); Collin Walcott (sitar); Paul Buckmaster (cello); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d); Jabali Billy Hart (d, perc, bgo); Charles Don Alias (cga, perc); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

June 6, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Carlos Garnett (as, ts); Bennie Maupin (bcl); Herbie Hancock (el-p, synth); Harold I. Williams (el-p, synth); Lonnie Liston Smith (org); David Creamer (g); Collin Walcott (sitar); Paul Buckmaster (cello); Michael Henderson (el-b); Jack DeJohnette (d, handclaps); Jabali Billy Hart (d, handclaps); Charles Don Alias (perc, handclaps); James Mtume Forman (perc, handclaps); Badal Roy (tabla, handclaps)

June 12, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Carlos Garnett (ss); Bennie Maupin (bcl); Lonnie Liston Smith (org); Harold I. Williams (el-p, synth); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); Jabali Billy Hart (d, perc); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

August 23, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Cedric Lawson (org); Reggie Lucas (g); Khalil Balakrishna (sitar); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); Badal Roy (tabla); James Mtume Forman (cga)

September 6, 1972

Miles Davis (org); Reggie Lucas (g); Khalil Balakrishna (sitar); Cedric Lawson (synth); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

November 29, 1972

Miles Davis (tpt); Carlos Garnett (ss); Cedric Lawson (keyb); Reggie Lucas (g); Khalil Balakrishna (sitar); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

December 8, 1972

Miles Davis (org); Carlos Garnett (ss); Cedric Lawson (keyb); Reggie Lucas (g); Khalil Balakrishna (sitar); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

January 4, 1973

Miles Davis (tpt); Dave Liebman (ss); Cedric Lawson (keyb); Reggie Lucas (g); Khalil Balakrishna (sitar); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc); Badal Roy (tabla)

July 26, 1973

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Dave Liebman (ss, fl); Pete Cosey (g); Reggie Lucas (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

September 17, 1973

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Dave Liebman (ts, fl); John Stubblefield (ss); Pete Cosey (g); Reggie Lucas (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

September 18, 1973

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Dave Liebman (ts); Pete Cosey (g); Reggie Lucas (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga)

June 19, 1974

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Dave Liebman (fl); Pete Cosey (g); Reggie Lucas (g); Dominique Gaumont (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

October 7, 1974

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Sonny Fortune (ss, fl); Pete Cosey (g); Reggie Lucas (g); Dominique Gaumont (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

November 6, 1974

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Sonny Fortune (ss, ts, fl); Pete Cosey (g, d, perc); Reggie Lucas (g); Dominique Gaumont (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

May 5, 1975

Miles Davis (tpt, org); Sam Morrison (ts); Pete Cosey (g, perc); Reggie Lucas (g); Michael Henderson (el-b); Al Foster (d); James Mtume Forman (cga, perc)

[jazzbo]

Yes. . . but what if Bob has really good sounding tapes of Duffy performances?

Wow!

[king ubu]

Yes. . . but what if Bob has really good sounding tapes of Duffy performances?

Wow!

That would be mighty cool, of course!

[marcello]

Yes. . . but what if Bob has really good sounding tapes of Duffy performances?

Wow!

That would be mighty cool, of course!

That's what I assume. I talked to him very briefly about it a couple of weeks ago during a chance encounter. He was in the process of getting a release from the club owner, who I used to work for when I was a kid.

[GregK]

can anyone who speaks with "Bob" ask him about the possibility of a box of the 74-75 live material (i.e., the Agharta/Pangaea era)?

[jazzbo]

Hmmmm. . . . he had quit working on Miles projects was the big news a while back. . . I'd be surprised if HE produced the next boxes if there are next boxes. (But I'm not speaking for him, I don't even speak with him!)

[bobbelden]

This is my latest project while I was working on the Miles box set....

MILES FROM INDIA

PRODUCED BY BOB BELDEN

ARRANGED BY BOB BELDEN AND LOUIZ BANKS

Executive Producer: Yusuf Gandhi

Additional Production: John McLaughlin, Adam Holzman, Robert Irving III, Vince Wilburn, Jr., Scott Kinsey

MILES FROM INDIA track listing

CD 1

1 Spanish Key 20:04

2 All Blues 09:22

3 Ife (fast) 08:44

4 In A Silent Way (intro) 02:4

5 It's About That Time 10:12

6 Jean Pierre 11:05

CD 2

1 So What 08:16

2 Miles Runs The Voodoo Down 09:05

3 Blue In Green 13:13

4 Great Expectations 08:39

5 Ife (slow) 14:22

6 Miles From India 07:06

Louis Banks: Piano, Fender Rhodes, Arranger

Shankar Mahadevan: Indian Classical Vocals

Sikki Gurucharan-vocals

Rakesh Chaurasia: Flute

Rudresh Mahanthappa: Alto Sax

Kala Ramnath: Carnatic Violin

U. Shrinivas-mandolin

Dilshad Khan: Sarangi

Brij Narain: Sarod

Ravi Chari: Sitar

Vikku Vinayakram: Ghatam

Selva Ghanesh: Kanjira

Sridhar Parthasarathy: Mridangam

Taufiq Qureshi: World Percussion

A. Sivamani: World Percussion

Gino Banks: Drums

Wallace Roney-trumpet

Dave Liebman: soprano sax, tenor sax, flute, indian flute

Gary Bartz: soprano and alto sax

Marcus Miller-bass clarinet

John McLaughlin-guitar

Pete Cosey: guitar

Mike Stern-guitar (courtesy of Heads Up Records)

Adam Holzman: keyboards and mini-moog

Robert Irving III: Fender Rhodes, Hammond B-3, synths

Chick Corea: acoustic piano (courtesy of Concord Records)

Ron Carter: acoustic bass (courtesy of Blue Note Records)

Benny Rietveld: electric bass

Michael Henderson: electric bass

Jimmy Cobb: drums

Lenny White-drums

Vince Wilburn, Jr.-drums

Ndugu-drums

Badal Roy: tablas

Recorded November 2006-July 2007 in: 

Mumbai, India

Madras, India

New York, NY

Saylorsburg, PA

Los Angeles, CA

Chicago, Ill.

Label: Times Square Records in Manhattan

Release date: Winter 2008

SCHEDULED AND PENDING CONCERTS:

May 9, 2008 Town Hall, NYC

May 31, 2008 San Francisco Jazz Festival, CA

PS: No Duffy's, no other boxes planned....

[bertrand]

Any hope of a reissue of Weather Report's 8:30, with all the tracks? It can fit onto one CD...

Bertrand.

[sidewinder]

PS: No Duffy's, no other boxes planned....

Thanks for the update. Too bad !

[GregK]

PS: No Duffy's, no other boxes planned....

Damn. How much begging do we have to do?

[Chuck Nessa]

[JSngry]

It's amazing to me how quickly the new music gelled once all the "established jazz musicians" got outta the rhythm section mix (even though if Al Foster qualifies as one, he sure didn't play the music like one). In less than a year, that shit got real tight.

Has anybody bothered to break down the component rhythmic parts of "Mtume"? Something pretty heady is going on there, & I can hear it a lot clearer on the CD than I can my old LP....

[Soulstation1]

i might need this set one day

[Stefan Wood]

i might need this set one day

Actually, you need it NOW!!!! Hearing the unedited cuts is something else!

[7/4]

i might need this set one day

Actually, you need it NOW!!!! Hearing the unedited cuts is something else!

Just what I need to hear. I was trying to put this off until a later date when there's more funds.

[Chuck Nessa]

It's amazing to me how quickly the new music gelled once all the "established jazz musicians" got outta the rhythm section mix (even though if Al Foster qualifies as one, he sure didn't play the music like one). In less than a year, that shit got real tight.

Gee, and I thought it was the other way around.

typo edit

Edited November 17, 2007 by Chuck Nessa

[JSngry]

What, about Al Foster?

Sure, why not...