Bad news from Mosaic

[king ubu]

Btw, whatever other two sets were still listed as "Last Chance" besides the Pearson are now gone from the site!

One of them was the John Patton Select.

Yes, and the other one must have been the Carmell Jones.

That one at least went out regularly...

The remaining "running low" list is quite impressive as well, but luckily I'm covered there, owning all the sets!

[Brad]

So far, as far as I can tell, ebay prices don't seem high on some of these selects suddently deleted.

[medjuck]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

I bought both of them.

[lipi]

some of the choices seemed a little strange, did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I have both of those. The Witherspoon, in particular, is great.

[Tom 1960]

I received an email from Movie Mars a short time ago concerning the status of the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios:

"The item listed below is temporarily delayed, but we anticipate shipping it in the next 1-3 days, and you will be notified the moment it has shipped. In the unlikely event your item should experience further delay, you will be notified again."

Not sure if this is a good sign or not?

[CSB046]

I received an email from Movie Mars a short time ago concerning the status of the Pacific Jazz Piano Trios:

"The item listed below is temporarily delayed, but we anticipate shipping it in the next 1-3 days, and you will be notified the moment it has shipped. In the unlikely event your item should experience further delay, you will be notified again."

Not sure if this is a good sign or not?

Uh oh. Maybe my complete failure to acquire the Bud Shank set from anyplace (at least, at a cost I can afford) has made me pessimistic, but this sounds like they're planning to acquire it from another seller and then ship it to you.

All well and good...assuming they can find it from another seller.

Best of luck.

Edited to add: I mentioned a bit earlier in this thread that I've always gotten what I ordered from Movie Mars. Unfortunately, in those orders, I've never received an e-mail regarding such a delay. Selfishly, your message makes me a bit nervous for myself too. My Bob Brookmeyer set is on order from them, and I have yet to receive a shipment notice on it...

Edited September 14, 2009 by CSB046

[king ubu]

Just got shipping confirmations for the Dexter Gordon and Johnny Richards Select!

[Brute]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

[gmonahan]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

[sidewinder]

Just got shipping confirmations for the Dexter Gordon and Johnny Richards Select!

I sense the understated euphoria. :rsmile: No word on mine yet (other than the Lou Donaldson, which is shipping from the land of Signor Berlusconi) but the moment I hear that Brookmeyer and Dex are on their way there will be champagne corks popping chez moi..

Edited September 15, 2009 by sidewinder

[king ubu]

very, not to say decisively understated!

Ttill waiting for (no) news on the Shank/Coop and the Pacifics... I guess all news there could be would be getting a cancellation/money refund mail, so I hope not to get anything!

[sidewinder]

the Pacifics...

Mine's shown as 'completed', so I guess it must be shipping !

[king ubu]

Mine as well (except for the first attempt at the Pacific Jazz Trios, that one's still in progress, good I put in a second order!) - still I don't want to celebrate too early...

[David Ayers]

Mine as well (except for the first attempt at the Pacific Jazz Trios, that one's still in progress, good I put in a second order!) - still I don't want to celebrate too early...

Let us know when you're sorted. Then we can change the title of this thread from 'Bad News form Mosaic' to 'Good News from Zurich'.

[king ubu]

Mine as well (except for the first attempt at the Pacific Jazz Trios, that one's still in progress, good I put in a second order!) - still I don't want to celebrate too early...

Let us know when you're sorted. Then we can change the title of this thread from 'Bad News form Mosaic' to 'Good News from Zurich'.

Shut up and get in the car!

[David Ayers]

Mine as well (except for the first attempt at the Pacific Jazz Trios, that one's still in progress, good I put in a second order!) - still I don't want to celebrate too early...

Let us know when you're sorted. Then we can change the title of this thread from 'Bad News form Mosaic' to 'Good News from Zurich'.

Shut up and get in the car!

Heh heh!

[Cliff Englewood]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

Eh, it wasn't JAW's point, it was my point, well sort of.

If your re-issueing stuff to what is an already very limited market and charging top $ for it, surely your criteria should not be albums that happen to be obscure yet are available for release and then talked up to a point to make them seem a definitive release. The Art Farmer Single was a good idea, the Art Blakey Single, not so sure, although now that I've typed that I know someone is going to say it's his best album. You're right though, the choices are odd and it's more than likely why they haven't had the sales they were hoping for with the Singles series and have stopped releaseing them. Not withstanding 3 or 4 people on a Jazz message board of course. :rolleyes:

I get the impression that Mosaic thought their customers will go for anything as long as it has the "Mosaic" name on it. They are right to a certin extent, there's a few of those customers on here. I'm not naming names though. :w

[J.A.W.]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

I don't remember posting anything here about those albums

Edited September 15, 2009 by J.A.W.

[paul secor]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

I don't remember posting anything here about those albums

Believe that was Ciff Englewood, not Hans.

[Tom in RI]

I ordered the Bud Shank Bob Cooper Select from Barnes & Noble last week after reading through this thread. Just received confirmation this morning that is is shipping, $51.24 total.

[Brad]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

I don't remember posting anything here about those albums

Believe that was Ciff Englewood, not Hans.

Some of these selections didn't really excite me. Good music but not compelling.

[mikelz777]

Having experienced 2 no-gos already for the Brookmeyer Select, I have orders in for the Brookmeyer at two more retailers. It looks like they're going to keep me guessing until the very end. One of the retailers put an authorization through on my card and their web-site indicated that the order moved from being sent to fulfillment, to packing, to shipped. The odd part about that is the authorization disappeared off my card and my account wasn't charged. (yet at least) The other retailer shows that my order moved from "payment processed" to "payment approved". They've actually charged my account but I haven't received notice that my order has shipped nor does it indicate it was shipped on their web-site. I suppose I could call to follow up on the orders but I really don't feel like it and the anticipation is kind of cool. Sometimes the journey is more fun than the destination.

Edited September 15, 2009 by mikelz777

[gmonahan]

did anybody out there really want George Wein - Is Alive And Well or Jimmy Witherspoon - Goin To Kansas City?

I see your point, but would like to add I've really enjoyed the Jimmy Witherspoon and have listened to it repeatedly.

Me too! That's a great album and kudos to Mosaic for reissuing it. I can't comment on the Wein album as I don't own that one.

I think JAW's point was not that these aren't good albums--they are--but that they're odd choices, and I have to concur on that point. There are some odd choices among those singles even by the "more established" artists. I was surprised by the J. J. Johnson choice, for example, because there was some really good jazz stuff he recorded in his other RCA albums (especially "The Total J. J. Johnson") that had to be left out. Likewise, while "Woody's Winners" is a great album, Woody's Columbia material would have made a fine select.

greg mo

Eh, it wasn't JAW's point, it was my point, well sort of.

If your re-issueing stuff to what is an already very limited market and charging top $ for it, surely your criteria should not be albums that happen to be obscure yet are available for release and then talked up to a point to make them seem a definitive release. The Art Farmer Single was a good idea, the Art Blakey Single, not so sure, although now that I've typed that I know someone is going to say it's his best album. You're right though, the choices are odd and it's more than likely why they haven't had the sales they were hoping for with the Singles series and have stopped releaseing them. Not withstanding 3 or 4 people on a Jazz message board of course. :rolleyes:

I get the impression that Mosaic thought their customers will go for anything as long as it has the "Mosaic" name on it. They are right to a certin extent, there's a few of those customers on here. I'm not naming names though. :w

My bad. I confused posters. Hope NEITHER of you is too insulted!

greg mo

[CSB046]

One of the retailers put an authorization through on my card and their web-site indicated that the order moved from being sent to fulfillment, to packing, to shipped. The odd part about that is the authorization disappeared off my card and my account wasn't charged. (yet at least)

This wasn't by chance Keenzo, was it? They apparently just packed up my John Patton set, even though the initial credit card authorization has mysteriously vanished from my account. In any case, they gave me a tracking number over the phone, so hopefully the Patton is a go.

It figures that I quite literally ordered my first EVER Mosaic sets a week before this whole mess happened. I can't afford the big sets, but I had targeted six of the Selects:

Curtis Amy and Charles Tolliver (which I received right as the mess occurred)

Carmell Jones (ordered the day I learned of the problems, and since received)

John Patton (hopefully on its way)

Bob Brookmeyer (on order, but I'm worried because I've not gotten confirmation)

Bud Shank (looks like I won't be able to get this)

Guess I should consider myself lucky if I'm able to get five of the six sets I wanted. The Bud Shank was actually the "lowest" on my list, though the sound samples on Amazon and AllMusic make it sound quite good.

[mikelz777]

No, it wasn't Keenzo. They were one of my 2 no-gos. I got the cancellation email 2 days after I placed the order. They did place an authorization on my card but it has since disappeared and my account wasn't charged.

Edited September 15, 2009 by mikelz777