Miles Davis Live at the Plugged Nickel

[Rooster_Ties]

48 minutes ago, JSngry said:

1976. Think about that.

Those might be THE most whack examples of cover art in the entire ‘legit’ Miles catalog.

[mjzee]

Currently available for pre-order through Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Plugged-Nickel-Live-1965/dp/B0FT7CWYF7/

[JSngry]

53 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

Those might be THE most whack examples of cover art in the entire ‘legit’ Miles catalog.

1976 and American Columbia wasn't interested for a while. There was no Second Great Quintet yet.

[Rooster_Ties]

5 minutes ago, JSngry said:

1976 and American Columbia wasn't interested for a while. There was no Second Great Quintet yet.

Oh, right — those were Japanese only too.

[Holy Ghost]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but the 70+ mins single cd Columbia sampler they released of the Plugged Nickel, did it for me.

[Guy Berger]

Imho the 1965 Plugged Nickel recordings, while wonderful, are inferior in musical quality to the 1967 live recordings from Newport and Europe.

My guess is their reputation is largely based on the fact that for a long time they (and Miles in Berlin) were the only widely circulating live recordings of this quintet.

[jazzbo]

I have the repress of the Japanese set on gold disc. IMO it sounds better than the US cd set, and the Tower Records SACD set sounds a bit better than the Japanese. The edits really don't bother me.

[Kevin Bresnahan]

According to Sony's marketing blurb, "This new 10LP edition mirrors the original sequence, cut from the high-res Mosaic masters". Mosaic was AAA by this time, so this doesn't make sense.

I asked Scott Wenzel (via Facebook) if maybe the analog master tape they gave them to use for their LP set was digitally mastered and he said, "I'm not sure exactly how it was transferred and restored, only that, yes, we used analog masters".

So if Sony gave them an analog master tape created from a digital mix, they weren't above board with Mosaic. Considering Sony did the same thing to Mobile Fidelity albeit at a much larger scale, I wouldn't be surprised.

FWIW, he also implied that Mosaic would have liked to have been involved with this repress of their 10 LP set but that Sony isn't allowing them to license anything at this time.

[medjuck]

15 hours ago, JSngry said:

1976. Think about that.

What is that?  The Japanese release?  I don't recall ever seeing it. 

[jazzbo]

21 minutes ago, medjuck said:

What is that?  The Japanese release?  I don't recall ever seeing it. 

Yes, one of the original LP releases' cover.

[Stompin at the Savoy]

6 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

According to Sony's marketing blurb, "This new 10LP edition mirrors the original sequence, cut from the high-res Mosaic masters". Mosaic was AAA by this time, so this doesn't make sense.

I asked Scott Wenzel (via Facebook) if maybe the analog master tape they gave them to use for their LP set was digitally mastered and he said, "I'm not sure exactly how it was transferred and restored, only that, yes, we used analog masters".

So if Sony gave them an analog master tape created from a digital mix, they weren't above board with Mosaic. Considering Sony did the same thing to Mobile Fidelity albeit at a much larger scale, I wouldn't be surprised.

FWIW, he also implied that Mosaic would have liked to have been involved with this repress of their 10 LP set but that Sony isn't allowing them to license anything at this time.

Whoa, this is starting to sound like a real mastering mess!  They are going to have to clarify the sources they are using before I would consider a new "remaster".

[Daniel A]

1 hour ago, medjuck said:

What is that?  The Japanese release?  I don't recall ever seeing it. 

And what is it? An IC board?

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, medjuck said:

What is that?  The Japanese release?  I don't recall ever seeing it. 

Those two records are the beginning of the concept of The Second Great Quintet as a thing. Nobody was thinking about that group as a live band, not yet. It was those two records that got the ball rolling. In 1976, after Miles was retired and after how many evolutions, and who was thinking about a 10 year old club date shaking up the world?

But the they were.

You could get them if you had a contact for Japanese records. I got mine in 1981 (after after hearing them fou a few years)  at Jazz Record Mart, but I had to order a week in advance, such was the ongoing demand. 

5 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

And what is it? An IC board?

That's been the consensus as I have heard it.

[jazzbo]

I first got my hands on this music in 1982: this 2 LP US set: https://www.discogs.com/master/62386-Miles-Davis-Live-At-The-Plugged-Nickel

I still have my copy and it still sounds great.