JSngry Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM Report Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM 6 hours ago, street singer said: When asked about how limited these reissues would be, Zev Feldman stated on Instagram: "extremely limited. The series is designed to be pressed conservatively low and ship sold out." I'm sure that Roy Brooks would be extremely heartened by this touching attempt to get his music out to as wide an audience as possible. Quote
Brad Posted yesterday at 02:40 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:40 AM I hardly buy any new vinyl. Mostly used vinyl. Quote
street singer Posted yesterday at 03:11 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:11 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: I stopped buying new expensive vinyl a few years ago. I just can't hear the benefit to them any more. It's gotten to the point where if I have it on CD, and I have a lot of CDs, I usually skip the vinyl version. And to be honest, I've had a lot of problems with these newer LPs. Warps, underfill, cuts too hot for my setup, warbling piano, etc. The lack of quality control in modern pressings is, indeed, quite frustrating. When done right, records can be pressed exceptionally well these days...arguably, better than ever...which makes it all the more frustrating when corners are cut and they have the issues that you mentioned. 1 hour ago, JSngry said: I'm sure that Roy Brooks would be extremely heartened by this touching attempt to get his music out to as wide an audience as possible. The apparent "manufactured scarcity" of this series is certainly off-putting. I wish that they had gone the route of the new Stata-East reissue series, with high quality vinyl reissues and CD reissues released at the same time, and not hyped it up as being a "limited edition...buy now or cry later!" situation. Edited yesterday at 03:16 AM by street singer Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted yesterday at 03:26 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:26 AM Selling "editions" has replaced selling music. Quote
JSngry Posted yesterday at 04:28 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:28 AM Pertneer vinyl memecoins. Quote
Pim Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago Pat Martino made some damn good stuff for Muse too. Counciousness, Live and The Visit. Amazing stuff. Not looking to replace mine but if this brings more people in touch with his music: let them reissues come! Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Pim said: Pat Martino made some damn good stuff for Muse too. Counciousness, Live and The Visit. Amazing stuff. Not looking to replace mine but if this brings more people in touch with his music: let them reissues come! Yeah, but "more people", in this case, is likely going to be the flippers/hoarders. Many of these new Muse LPs will never be opened and will sell from collector to collector in that condition. I'm betting that a lot of these will not be bought for the music. Quote
Pim Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago these two then…. The last is desert island stuff for me Quote
mikeweil Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 7 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Selling "editions" has replaced selling music. That's absolutely on point. My problem with Muse is the sound - rather thin, no warmth, especially the bass, and bass drums almost inaudible. I doubt there will be much improvement. And they have short playing time. In most cases two albums woulb fit on one CD. Some are musically very good, some are avrerage. I find this listing to be more useful than the one on discogs, due to all foreign editions listed there. http://www.jazzlists.com/SJ_Label_Muse_5000.htm Muse continued when Prestige was turned into a fusion label. Don Schlitten et al. Quote
Eric Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago 9 hours ago, Brad said: I hardly buy any new vinyl. Mostly used vinyl. Absolutely the same here. Quote
T.D. Posted 18 hours ago Report Posted 18 hours ago 17 hours ago, street singer said: When asked about how limited these reissues would be, Zev Feldman stated on Instagram: "extremely limited. The series is designed to be pressed conservatively low and ship sold out." Interesting... Maybe CD editions to follow if these sell well? The more I hear from this Zev guy the less I like him. By no means a new trend. I now avoid his projects unless I find one absolutely compelling. Quote
felser Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Pim said: these two then…. The last is desert island stuff for me Ichi-Ban was on Timeless, not Muse, though it is a really good album. And I'm with you on The Real Thing being great. This one was on Cobblestone, the forerunner of Muse, and is really good too: Quote
Dub Modal Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago Did they publish which ones they're going to reissue? Clifford Jordan's Night of the Mark VII is a great album I have on a 32 Jazz CD. Would consider an upgrade if the SQ is improved enough bc I like this record. Quote
Pim Posted 16 hours ago Report Posted 16 hours ago 58 minutes ago, felser said: Ichi-Ban was on Timeless, not Muse, though it is a really good album. And I'm with you on The Real Thing being great. This one was on Cobblestone, the forerunner of Muse, and is really good too: Ah I see. The US version was issued on Timeless Muse right? Quote
felser Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Pim said: Ah I see. The US version was issued on Timeless Muse right? Yes, you are correct! Quote
street singer Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Did they publish which ones they're going to reissue? Clifford Jordan's Night of the Mark VII is a great album I have on a 32 Jazz CD. Would consider an upgrade if the SQ is improved enough bc I like this record. They have only announced three so far: Roy Brooks - The Free Slave, Kenny Barron - Sunset to Dawn, and Carlos Garnett - Cosmos Nucleus. 4 hours ago, T.D. said: The more I hear from this Zev guy the less I like him. By no means a new trend. I now avoid his projects unless I find one absolutely compelling. He's been involved in some fantastic releases, though. The Xanadu CD reissue series from a decade ago was my introduction to him. Since then, he's been involved in many releases on the Elemental and Resonance labels that I'm happy to have in my collection. He also was involved in the Lee Morgan 'Live at the Lighthouse' box set that was a dream come true for many. So, overall, I'm glad he's out there doing his thing. Edited 14 hours ago by street singer Quote
street singer Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago I received the following response from Zev on Instagram, regarding the limited nature of this series: "Time Traveler just needs to be cautious pressing the right amount, especially out of the gate for the label launch. As we go deeper into the series if we notice a greater demand we’ll consider pressing accordingly but we want to go into this carefully. We have invested lots of resources to build what I think is the definitive edition which I hope you’ll agree. I’d encourage anyone interested to please pre order now. Thanks again to one and all for your support. We’re just getting started." Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago I have some of the Muse albums on previously issued cds and would be interested in purchasing several more but not on pricey, deluxe lp editions. Good quality downloads (cd or better) would work fine for me too. Quote
T.D. Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 7 hours ago, street singer said: He's [Zev] been involved in some fantastic releases, though. The Xanadu CD reissue series from a decade ago was my introduction to him. Since then, he's been involved in many releases on the Elemental and Resonance labels that I'm happy to have in my collection. He also was involved in the Lee Morgan 'Live at the Lighthouse' box set that was a dream come true for many. So, overall, I'm glad he's out there doing his thing. You're right, of course. It's just that a lot of his Internet statements seem to rub me the wrong way. Quote
JSngry Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, T.D. said: You're right, of course. It's just that a lot of his Internet statements seem to rub me the wrong way. You might not be alone in that? Quote
T.D. Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 42 minutes ago, JSngry said: You might not be alone in that? Wouldn't surprise me. 😉 I think there have been rumblings on the forum. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago Didn't I say earlier that the "merchants" have moved from music to "product"? Quote
BFrank Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) On 8/14/2025 at 7:48 AM, Pim said: That goes for some Muse titles yes. But the more desired ones can get very pricey. Roy Brooks' The Free Slave, Woody Shaw's Moontrane and Clifford Jordan's Night of the Mark V are some examples. I still have vinyl OGs of Moontrane and Night of the Mark VII. My LPs have been boxed up for years, but I was going through some of them last year and was amazed to find that these 2 were valued on Discogs at $100-200 each. 19 hours ago, Pim said: Pat Martino made some damn good stuff for Muse too. Counciousness, Live and The Visit. Amazing stuff. Not looking to replace mine but if this brings more people in touch with his music: let them reissues come! Yes! Absolutely! On 8/14/2025 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Nessa said: Selling "editions" has replaced selling music. Ha Ha! This would be a great album for them to reissue, too. I have it on vinyl and also the ugly 32 Jazz CD Edited 1 hour ago by BFrank Quote
Pim Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 15 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Did they publish which ones they're going to reissue? Clifford Jordan's Night of the Mark VII is a great album I have on a 32 Jazz CD. Would consider an upgrade if the SQ is improved enough bc I like this record. I’d say that one definitely has a chance. The first three are all titles where the original pressing has become rare. Quote
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