Rabshakeh Posted yesterday at 12:25 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:25 AM Hard to see why they released this now. These kinds of lists were once essential. I spent hours over that Thurston Moore list back in the day, awkward jive slang aside. But that was a long time ago, and with the likes of RYM and Discogs that information is now available to anyone who is interested. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted yesterday at 02:02 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:02 AM Discogs and RYM won't be around forever! Also, the verbiage is entertaining. Quote
T.D. Posted yesterday at 02:58 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:58 AM I like the list from a (latecomer and relative newbie in the field) listener's perspective. Being somewhat of an old fart, I find the writing somewhat cringe-inducing. IMO pretentious to a degree and a certain amount of collector's "flexing" as I think someone put it above. Granted that's just my taste, and the enthusiasm is definitely a plus. Quote
JSngry Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:18 AM So...the list stops in 1980. Does that mean that somebody who uses this book to drive their primary "discovering" is going to be only a quarter-century behind the times? Quote
T.D. Posted yesterday at 03:38 AM Report Posted yesterday at 03:38 AM True. But more like almost half a century at present. An older/superannuated list seems much "safer". From both writing and "discovering" points of view. 😁 Quote
felser Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Report Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Well, that was a (to me, THE, ymmv) golden era for that music. Someone else can write the sequels for 1980-2000 and 2000-2020 if they want. Quote
JSngry Posted yesterday at 05:22 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:22 AM Would you read them if they did? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted yesterday at 05:33 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:33 AM 10 minutes ago, JSngry said: Would you read them if they did? I would. Quote
T.D. Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM Report Posted yesterday at 05:46 AM 12 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: I would. +1 Quote
Rabshakeh Posted yesterday at 08:36 AM Report Posted yesterday at 08:36 AM I would. It's a real bugbear of mine that no one maps out any of this music past 1982. That goes for non-avantgarde jazz too. One nice thing about that list is the FIG record. That was and is a good clique of musicians who still don't get enough love. Quote
colinmce Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:27 PM Well it just so happens that I felt inspired to put together a list of what the next 20 years could look like. I tried to keep with the spirit of the original list, and used only vinyl or cassette releases that came out between 1981-2001: Brötzman/Miller/Moholo Opened … But Hardly Touched FMP 1981 Wally Shoup & Ross Rabin Scree-Run Waltz Too Sound 1981 Tristan Honsinger/Steve Beresford/Toshinori Kondo/David Toop Imitation of Life Y 1981 Glenn Spearman Night After Night Musa-Physics 1981 Billy Bang Changing Seasons Bellows 1981 Keizo Inoue In Moers '81 Trio 1981 Christoph Anders/Heiner Goebbels/Alfred Harth/Paul Lovens/Rolf Riehm/Annemarie Roelofs Es Herrscht Uhu Im Land Japo 1981 Pierre Favre/Léon Francoli/Michel Portal Arrivederci Le Chouartse Hat Hut 1981 Horace Tapscott Sextet Dial 'B' For Barbara Nimbus West 1981 Donald Ayler In Florence 1981 Vol. 1/Vol. 2/Vol. 3 Frame 1981 Richard Dunbar Clear-Eyed Vision Jahari 1981 Toyozumi Unit The Masterpiece Alm-Uranoia 1981 Burton Greene & Alan Silva The Ongoing Strings Hat Hut 1981 Joe McPhee Oleo Hat MUSICS 1982 Paul Flaherty/Froc Flipetti/Bill Wallach Trinity Symphony - 1982 Han Bennink Tempo Comodo Data 1982 Alan Silva Celestrial Communications Orchestra Desert Mirage IACP 1982 Bill Dixon November 1981 Soul Note 1982 Anthony Braxton & Richard Tietlbaum Open Aspects '82 Hat Art 1982 Akira Sakata Trio Dance Enja 1982 Air 80° Below 82 Antilles 1982 Steve Lacy Feat. Bobby Few & Denis Charles The Flame Soul Note 1982 Jemeel Moondoc Quartet Muntu The Athens Concert Praxis 1982 Doug Hammond Spaces Idbib 1982 SME + SMO In Concert Sweet Folk and Country 1982 Bert Wilson & Rebirth Kaleidoscopic Visions Au Roar 1982 Charles Tyler Quartet Definite Volume 1 Storyville 1982 John Carter Octet Dauwhe Black Saint 1982 Günter Christmann/Torsten Muller/LaDonna Smith/Davey Williams White Earth Streak Trans Museq 1983 Globe Unity Orchestra Intergalactic Blow Japo 1983 Peter Kowald/Wadada Leo Smith/Günter Sommer If You Want The Kernels You Have To Break The Shells FMP 1983 Improvisational Arts Quintet No Compromise! New New Orleans Music Prescription 1983 Barbara Donald & Unity The Past and Tomorrows Cadence 1983 Cecil Taylor Unit Nicaragua: No Parasan - Willisau 83 Live Nica 1983 Masahiko Togashi/Lauren Newton/Peter Kowald Contrast Paddle Wheel 1983 Jack Wright & Marv Frank Free Life, Singing Spring Garden Music 1983 Jon Rose/Luc Houtkamp/Leo Cuypers/Jan den Boer Dutch Trumpet Music Fringe Benefit Records 1983 Paul Rutherford Trio Bracknell '83 Ogun 1983 Peter Kowald/Maarten Altena Two Making A Triangle FMP 1983 Gunter Hampel All Stars Jubilation Birth 1983 London Jazz Composers Orchestra Stringer FMP 1983 Marion Brown 79118 Live DIW 1983 Hal Russell/Mars Williams Eftsoons Nessa 1984 Freestyle Band Freestyle Band Adeyeme Productions Unlimited 1984 Sun Ra Arkestra Nuclear War Y 1984 XPact Frogman's View Uhlkang 1984 Joel Futterman/Jimmy Lyons/Richard Davis/Robert Adkins Inneraction JDF Music 1984 William Hooker Brighter Lights Reality Concept Units 1984 Keshavan Maslak with Charles Moffett Blaster Master Black Saint 1984 Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett AMIGA 1984 Jackson Krall & The Secret Music Society Untitled Stork Music 1984 Rich Corpolongo & Joe Daley Sonic Blast Coda 1984 Detail Okhela « To Make A Fire » Affinity 1984 ICP Orchestra Extension Red White & Blue Instant Composer's Pool 1984 Gianluigi Trovesi & Andrea Centazzo Shock!! Ictus 1984 Marilyn Crispell Live In Berlin Black Saint 1984 Phil Wachsmann Writing In Water Bead 1985 Danny Davis Atmosphere Fool 1985 Eddie Prévost Quartet Continuum Matchless 1985 Takehisa Kosugi/Takahisa Kazamaki 円盤 (Live At The すとれんじ ふるぅっ) Fool 1985 Volapyk Volapyk Dragon 1985 Evan Parker/George Lewis/Barry Guy/Paul Lytton Hook, Drift, and Shuffle Incus 1985 Griot Galaxy Opus Krampus Sound Aspects 1985 Tristan Honsinger Picnic Data 1985 Marco Eneidi/William Parker/Denis Charles Vermont Spring 1986 Boticelli 1986 Evan Parker The Snake Decides Incus 1986 Ganelin Trio Ttaango... In Nickelsdorf Leo 1986 David Murray Recording NYC, 1986 DIW 1986 The Milo Fine Free Jazz Ensemble Get Down! Shove It! It's Tango Time! Shih Shih Wu Ai 1986 Butch Morris Current Trends In Racism In Modern America (A Work In Progress) Sound Aspects 1986 JoJo Takayanagi & John Zorn Experimental Performance With John Zorn Mobys Record 1986 Company Trios Incus 1986 Akemi Kuniyoshi-Kuhn/Marcio Mattos/Eddie Prévost Handscapes Leo 1986 The Blue Notes Blue Notes For Johnny Ogun 1987 Masayuki Takayanagi Action Direct Alm-Uranoia 1987 Roscoe Mitchell Quartet The Flow of Things Black Saint 1987 Quintet Moderne Ikkunan Takana = Behind The Window Bead 1987 Russell/Durrant/Butcher Conceits Acta 1987 Other Dimensions In Music Other Dimensions In Music Silkheart 1987 Borbetomagus & Voice Crack Fish That Sparkling Bubble Agaric/Uhlkang Produktion 1988 David S. Ware Passage To Music Silkheart 1988 Irène Schweizer/Maggie Nichols/George Lewis/Joëlle Léandre/Günter Sommer The Storming of the Winter Palace Intakt 1988 Jerome Cooper Quintet Outer and Interactions About Time 1988 Phil Minton The Berlin Station FMP 1988 Charles Gayle Trio Homeless Silkheart 1989 Johannes Bauer/Annick Nozati/Fred Van Hove Johannes Bauer Annick Nozati Fred Van Hove AMIGA 1989 Daunik Lazro/Lê Quan Ninh/Michel Doneda Concert Public VanD'Oeuvre 1989 Various Sounds - Contemporary Swedish Improvised Music Blue Tower 1990 Floros Floridis/Vincent Chancey/Peter Kowald/Louis Moholo Human Aspect Om 1990 Sonny Simmons Global Jungle - 1990 Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra ECM 1990 Gush & Sven-Åke Johansson Tjo Och Tjim Dragon 1990 Schlippenbach Quartett Das Hoe Lied Po Torch 1991 Peter Brötzmann/Shoji Hano Funny Rat EGG 1992 Hession/Wilkinson/Fell Foom! Foom! Bruce's Fingers 1992 Bill Cole/Warren Smith/Joe Daley Untempered Trio Shadrack 1992 In Actu Music & Painting Po Torch 1993 Matthew Shipp Duo with William Parker "Summertime" Yak'u'za 1995 TEST Ahead! Jazz Ramwong 1998 Arthur Doyle Electro-Acoustic Ensemble Plays The African Love Call Esoteric Yod 2001 Quote
felser Posted yesterday at 03:59 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:59 PM Quick count, I think I own six of those, compared to 46 on the first list, FWIW. As for not mapping out post-1982 non avant-garde jazz, that may reflect the stultifying effect that Wynton Marsalis & Co. had on record labels and producers. Compare 80-90's BN to 60's BN for even the same artists who recorded for them in both eras (the prime example being those McCoy Tyner solo and duo albums in the later era). Quote
Holy Ghost Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:27 PM On 1/23/2026 at 10:47 AM, felser said: Thanks for this! Quick count, I believe I own 46 of them plus burns of the Lasha and Colbert, which I would buy legit CD's/downloads of in a heartbeat. Lots of room to debate the selections, of course, but there are some wonderful recordings on there. Yeah, quick rehearsal of my collection, I have about half of these. The other half I don't have, I'd be open to listening to...at a reasonable price. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted yesterday at 04:30 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:30 PM (edited) Looks like I have 101.5 (part of the Dolphy Acetate on Other Aspects) of the records listed in the book, plus a couple more as downloads. I sold a few that are on the list as well. Also, it looks like around 84 of Colin's list (need to catch up!) are filed. I tried to get the Zorn/Takayanagi duo from Dusty Groove once, cheap IIRC, but someone beat me to it. Maybe that was Colin! The reason given that the original book cut off in 1980 is that they didn't want to end up closely tied, personally, to any of the records included. I'd definitely read a good follow-up book covering 1980-now. Edited yesterday at 04:32 PM by clifford_thornton Quote
colinmce Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM I added this list to Discogs for easier consumption: https://www.discogs.com/lists/NOW-JAZZ-NOW-Addendum-Global-Free-Jazz-Free-Improvisation-1981-2001/1663074 & that certainly wasn't me grabbing that LP! if only! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted yesterday at 04:58 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:58 PM 22 minutes ago, colinmce said: & that certainly wasn't me grabbing that LP! if only! yeah, it had to be at least 10 years ago, probably more... $40 or so for that record was a steal, even then. Quote
Dub Modal Posted yesterday at 06:50 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:50 PM 2 hours ago, colinmce said: I added this list to Discogs for easier consumption: https://www.discogs.com/lists/NOW-JAZZ-NOW-Addendum-Global-Free-Jazz-Free-Improvisation-1981-2001/1663074 & that certainly wasn't me grabbing that LP! if only! Thanks for your list above and this link. Quote
Late Posted yesterday at 07:11 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:11 PM 2 hours ago, colinmce said: I added this list to Discogs for easier consumption: NOW JAZZ NOW Addendum: Global Free Jazz & Free Improvisation 1981-2001 & that certainly wasn't me grabbing that LP! if only! Wow! Thanks for this additional list. I'm unfamiliar with a lot of those records. Dig this one from 1980. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted yesterday at 07:38 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:38 PM Pochi is rad. Those Sakata Trio albums from the 70s/80s are good. Quote
cayetano Posted yesterday at 07:42 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 07:42 PM 3 hours ago, colinmce said: I added this list to Discogs for easier consumption: https://www.discogs.com/lists/NOW-JAZZ-NOW-Addendum-Global-Free-Jazz-Free-Improvisation-1981-2001/1663074 & that certainly wasn't me grabbing that LP! if only! Crazy list, I only have 26 and I didn't even know I had one of them. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 15 hours ago, colinmce said: Well it just so happens that I felt inspired to put together a list of what the next 20 years could look like. I tried to keep with the spirit of the original list, and used only vinyl or cassette releases that came out between 1981-2001: Brötzman/Miller/Moholo Opened … But Hardly Touched FMP 1981 Wally Shoup & Ross Rabin Scree-Run Waltz Too Sound 1981 Tristan Honsinger/Steve Beresford/Toshinori Kondo/David Toop Imitation of Life Y 1981 Glenn Spearman Night After Night Musa-Physics 1981 Billy Bang Changing Seasons Bellows 1981 Keizo Inoue In Moers '81 Trio 1981 Christoph Anders/Heiner Goebbels/Alfred Harth/Paul Lovens/Rolf Riehm/Annemarie Roelofs Es Herrscht Uhu Im Land Japo 1981 Pierre Favre/Léon Francoli/Michel Portal Arrivederci Le Chouartse Hat Hut 1981 Horace Tapscott Sextet Dial 'B' For Barbara Nimbus West 1981 Donald Ayler In Florence 1981 Vol. 1/Vol. 2/Vol. 3 Frame 1981 Richard Dunbar Clear-Eyed Vision Jahari 1981 Toyozumi Unit The Masterpiece Alm-Uranoia 1981 Burton Greene & Alan Silva The Ongoing Strings Hat Hut 1981 Joe McPhee Oleo Hat MUSICS 1982 Paul Flaherty/Froc Flipetti/Bill Wallach Trinity Symphony - 1982 Han Bennink Tempo Comodo Data 1982 Alan Silva Celestrial Communications Orchestra Desert Mirage IACP 1982 Bill Dixon November 1981 Soul Note 1982 Anthony Braxton & Richard Tietlbaum Open Aspects '82 Hat Art 1982 Akira Sakata Trio Dance Enja 1982 Air 80° Below 82 Antilles 1982 Steve Lacy Feat. Bobby Few & Denis Charles The Flame Soul Note 1982 Jemeel Moondoc Quartet Muntu The Athens Concert Praxis 1982 Doug Hammond Spaces Idbib 1982 SME + SMO In Concert Sweet Folk and Country 1982 Bert Wilson & Rebirth Kaleidoscopic Visions Au Roar 1982 Charles Tyler Quartet Definite Volume 1 Storyville 1982 John Carter Octet Dauwhe Black Saint 1982 Günter Christmann/Torsten Muller/LaDonna Smith/Davey Williams White Earth Streak Trans Museq 1983 Globe Unity Orchestra Intergalactic Blow Japo 1983 Peter Kowald/Wadada Leo Smith/Günter Sommer If You Want The Kernels You Have To Break The Shells FMP 1983 Improvisational Arts Quintet No Compromise! New New Orleans Music Prescription 1983 Barbara Donald & Unity The Past and Tomorrows Cadence 1983 Cecil Taylor Unit Nicaragua: No Parasan - Willisau 83 Live Nica 1983 Masahiko Togashi/Lauren Newton/Peter Kowald Contrast Paddle Wheel 1983 Jack Wright & Marv Frank Free Life, Singing Spring Garden Music 1983 Jon Rose/Luc Houtkamp/Leo Cuypers/Jan den Boer Dutch Trumpet Music Fringe Benefit Records 1983 Paul Rutherford Trio Bracknell '83 Ogun 1983 Peter Kowald/Maarten Altena Two Making A Triangle FMP 1983 Gunter Hampel All Stars Jubilation Birth 1983 London Jazz Composers Orchestra Stringer FMP 1983 Marion Brown 79118 Live DIW 1983 Hal Russell/Mars Williams Eftsoons Nessa 1984 Freestyle Band Freestyle Band Adeyeme Productions Unlimited 1984 Sun Ra Arkestra Nuclear War Y 1984 XPact Frogman's View Uhlkang 1984 Joel Futterman/Jimmy Lyons/Richard Davis/Robert Adkins Inneraction JDF Music 1984 William Hooker Brighter Lights Reality Concept Units 1984 Keshavan Maslak with Charles Moffett Blaster Master Black Saint 1984 Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett AMIGA 1984 Jackson Krall & The Secret Music Society Untitled Stork Music 1984 Rich Corpolongo & Joe Daley Sonic Blast Coda 1984 Detail Okhela « To Make A Fire » Affinity 1984 ICP Orchestra Extension Red White & Blue Instant Composer's Pool 1984 Gianluigi Trovesi & Andrea Centazzo Shock!! Ictus 1984 Marilyn Crispell Live In Berlin Black Saint 1984 Phil Wachsmann Writing In Water Bead 1985 Danny Davis Atmosphere Fool 1985 Eddie Prévost Quartet Continuum Matchless 1985 Takehisa Kosugi/Takahisa Kazamaki 円盤 (Live At The すとれんじ ふるぅっ) Fool 1985 Volapyk Volapyk Dragon 1985 Evan Parker/George Lewis/Barry Guy/Paul Lytton Hook, Drift, and Shuffle Incus 1985 Griot Galaxy Opus Krampus Sound Aspects 1985 Tristan Honsinger Picnic Data 1985 Marco Eneidi/William Parker/Denis Charles Vermont Spring 1986 Boticelli 1986 Evan Parker The Snake Decides Incus 1986 Ganelin Trio Ttaango... In Nickelsdorf Leo 1986 David Murray Recording NYC, 1986 DIW 1986 The Milo Fine Free Jazz Ensemble Get Down! Shove It! It's Tango Time! Shih Shih Wu Ai 1986 Butch Morris Current Trends In Racism In Modern America (A Work In Progress) Sound Aspects 1986 JoJo Takayanagi & John Zorn Experimental Performance With John Zorn Mobys Record 1986 Company Trios Incus 1986 Akemi Kuniyoshi-Kuhn/Marcio Mattos/Eddie Prévost Handscapes Leo 1986 The Blue Notes Blue Notes For Johnny Ogun 1987 Masayuki Takayanagi Action Direct Alm-Uranoia 1987 Roscoe Mitchell Quartet The Flow of Things Black Saint 1987 Quintet Moderne Ikkunan Takana = Behind The Window Bead 1987 Russell/Durrant/Butcher Conceits Acta 1987 Other Dimensions In Music Other Dimensions In Music Silkheart 1987 Borbetomagus & Voice Crack Fish That Sparkling Bubble Agaric/Uhlkang Produktion 1988 David S. Ware Passage To Music Silkheart 1988 Irène Schweizer/Maggie Nichols/George Lewis/Joëlle Léandre/Günter Sommer The Storming of the Winter Palace Intakt 1988 Jerome Cooper Quintet Outer and Interactions About Time 1988 Phil Minton The Berlin Station FMP 1988 Charles Gayle Trio Homeless Silkheart 1989 Johannes Bauer/Annick Nozati/Fred Van Hove Johannes Bauer Annick Nozati Fred Van Hove AMIGA 1989 Daunik Lazro/Lê Quan Ninh/Michel Doneda Concert Public VanD'Oeuvre 1989 Various Sounds - Contemporary Swedish Improvised Music Blue Tower 1990 Floros Floridis/Vincent Chancey/Peter Kowald/Louis Moholo Human Aspect Om 1990 Sonny Simmons Global Jungle - 1990 Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra ECM 1990 Gush & Sven-Åke Johansson Tjo Och Tjim Dragon 1990 Schlippenbach Quartett Das Hoe Lied Po Torch 1991 Peter Brötzmann/Shoji Hano Funny Rat EGG 1992 Hession/Wilkinson/Fell Foom! Foom! Bruce's Fingers 1992 Bill Cole/Warren Smith/Joe Daley Untempered Trio Shadrack 1992 In Actu Music & Painting Po Torch 1993 Matthew Shipp Duo with William Parker "Summertime" Yak'u'za 1995 TEST Ahead! Jazz Ramwong 1998 Arthur Doyle Electro-Acoustic Ensemble Plays The African Love Call Esoteric Yod 2001 This is great stuff. Genuinely valuable. Quote
mjazzg Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 22 hours ago, colinmce said: Well it just so happens that I felt inspired to put together a list of what the next 20 years could look like. I tried to keep with the spirit of the original list, and used only vinyl or cassette releases that came out between 1981-2001: Brötzman/Miller/Moholo Opened … But Hardly Touched FMP 1981 Wally Shoup & Ross Rabin Scree-Run Waltz Too Sound 1981 Tristan Honsinger/Steve Beresford/Toshinori Kondo/David Toop Imitation of Life Y 1981 Glenn Spearman Night After Night Musa-Physics 1981 Billy Bang Changing Seasons Bellows 1981 Keizo Inoue In Moers '81 Trio 1981 Christoph Anders/Heiner Goebbels/Alfred Harth/Paul Lovens/Rolf Riehm/Annemarie Roelofs Es Herrscht Uhu Im Land Japo 1981 Pierre Favre/Léon Francoli/Michel Portal Arrivederci Le Chouartse Hat Hut 1981 Horace Tapscott Sextet Dial 'B' For Barbara Nimbus West 1981 Donald Ayler In Florence 1981 Vol. 1/Vol. 2/Vol. 3 Frame 1981 Richard Dunbar Clear-Eyed Vision Jahari 1981 Toyozumi Unit The Masterpiece Alm-Uranoia 1981 Burton Greene & Alan Silva The Ongoing Strings Hat Hut 1981 Joe McPhee Oleo Hat MUSICS 1982 Paul Flaherty/Froc Flipetti/Bill Wallach Trinity Symphony - 1982 Han Bennink Tempo Comodo Data 1982 Alan Silva Celestrial Communications Orchestra Desert Mirage IACP 1982 Bill Dixon November 1981 Soul Note 1982 Anthony Braxton & Richard Tietlbaum Open Aspects '82 Hat Art 1982 Akira Sakata Trio Dance Enja 1982 Air 80° Below 82 Antilles 1982 Steve Lacy Feat. Bobby Few & Denis Charles The Flame Soul Note 1982 Jemeel Moondoc Quartet Muntu The Athens Concert Praxis 1982 Doug Hammond Spaces Idbib 1982 SME + SMO In Concert Sweet Folk and Country 1982 Bert Wilson & Rebirth Kaleidoscopic Visions Au Roar 1982 Charles Tyler Quartet Definite Volume 1 Storyville 1982 John Carter Octet Dauwhe Black Saint 1982 Günter Christmann/Torsten Muller/LaDonna Smith/Davey Williams White Earth Streak Trans Museq 1983 Globe Unity Orchestra Intergalactic Blow Japo 1983 Peter Kowald/Wadada Leo Smith/Günter Sommer If You Want The Kernels You Have To Break The Shells FMP 1983 Improvisational Arts Quintet No Compromise! New New Orleans Music Prescription 1983 Barbara Donald & Unity The Past and Tomorrows Cadence 1983 Cecil Taylor Unit Nicaragua: No Parasan - Willisau 83 Live Nica 1983 Masahiko Togashi/Lauren Newton/Peter Kowald Contrast Paddle Wheel 1983 Jack Wright & Marv Frank Free Life, Singing Spring Garden Music 1983 Jon Rose/Luc Houtkamp/Leo Cuypers/Jan den Boer Dutch Trumpet Music Fringe Benefit Records 1983 Paul Rutherford Trio Bracknell '83 Ogun 1983 Peter Kowald/Maarten Altena Two Making A Triangle FMP 1983 Gunter Hampel All Stars Jubilation Birth 1983 London Jazz Composers Orchestra Stringer FMP 1983 Marion Brown 79118 Live DIW 1983 Hal Russell/Mars Williams Eftsoons Nessa 1984 Freestyle Band Freestyle Band Adeyeme Productions Unlimited 1984 Sun Ra Arkestra Nuclear War Y 1984 XPact Frogman's View Uhlkang 1984 Joel Futterman/Jimmy Lyons/Richard Davis/Robert Adkins Inneraction JDF Music 1984 William Hooker Brighter Lights Reality Concept Units 1984 Keshavan Maslak with Charles Moffett Blaster Master Black Saint 1984 Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett Bergisch-Brandenburgisches Quartett AMIGA 1984 Jackson Krall & The Secret Music Society Untitled Stork Music 1984 Rich Corpolongo & Joe Daley Sonic Blast Coda 1984 Detail Okhela « To Make A Fire » Affinity 1984 ICP Orchestra Extension Red White & Blue Instant Composer's Pool 1984 Gianluigi Trovesi & Andrea Centazzo Shock!! Ictus 1984 Marilyn Crispell Live In Berlin Black Saint 1984 Phil Wachsmann Writing In Water Bead 1985 Danny Davis Atmosphere Fool 1985 Eddie Prévost Quartet Continuum Matchless 1985 Takehisa Kosugi/Takahisa Kazamaki 円盤 (Live At The すとれんじ ふるぅっ) Fool 1985 Volapyk Volapyk Dragon 1985 Evan Parker/George Lewis/Barry Guy/Paul Lytton Hook, Drift, and Shuffle Incus 1985 Griot Galaxy Opus Krampus Sound Aspects 1985 Tristan Honsinger Picnic Data 1985 Marco Eneidi/William Parker/Denis Charles Vermont Spring 1986 Boticelli 1986 Evan Parker The Snake Decides Incus 1986 Ganelin Trio Ttaango... In Nickelsdorf Leo 1986 David Murray Recording NYC, 1986 DIW 1986 The Milo Fine Free Jazz Ensemble Get Down! Shove It! It's Tango Time! Shih Shih Wu Ai 1986 Butch Morris Current Trends In Racism In Modern America (A Work In Progress) Sound Aspects 1986 JoJo Takayanagi & John Zorn Experimental Performance With John Zorn Mobys Record 1986 Company Trios Incus 1986 Akemi Kuniyoshi-Kuhn/Marcio Mattos/Eddie Prévost Handscapes Leo 1986 The Blue Notes Blue Notes For Johnny Ogun 1987 Masayuki Takayanagi Action Direct Alm-Uranoia 1987 Roscoe Mitchell Quartet The Flow of Things Black Saint 1987 Quintet Moderne Ikkunan Takana = Behind The Window Bead 1987 Russell/Durrant/Butcher Conceits Acta 1987 Other Dimensions In Music Other Dimensions In Music Silkheart 1987 Borbetomagus & Voice Crack Fish That Sparkling Bubble Agaric/Uhlkang Produktion 1988 David S. Ware Passage To Music Silkheart 1988 Irène Schweizer/Maggie Nichols/George Lewis/Joëlle Léandre/Günter Sommer The Storming of the Winter Palace Intakt 1988 Jerome Cooper Quintet Outer and Interactions About Time 1988 Phil Minton The Berlin Station FMP 1988 Charles Gayle Trio Homeless Silkheart 1989 Johannes Bauer/Annick Nozati/Fred Van Hove Johannes Bauer Annick Nozati Fred Van Hove AMIGA 1989 Daunik Lazro/Lê Quan Ninh/Michel Doneda Concert Public VanD'Oeuvre 1989 Various Sounds - Contemporary Swedish Improvised Music Blue Tower 1990 Floros Floridis/Vincent Chancey/Peter Kowald/Louis Moholo Human Aspect Om 1990 Sonny Simmons Global Jungle - 1990 Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra ECM 1990 Gush & Sven-Åke Johansson Tjo Och Tjim Dragon 1990 Schlippenbach Quartett Das Hoe Lied Po Torch 1991 Peter Brötzmann/Shoji Hano Funny Rat EGG 1992 Hession/Wilkinson/Fell Foom! Foom! Bruce's Fingers 1992 Bill Cole/Warren Smith/Joe Daley Untempered Trio Shadrack 1992 In Actu Music & Painting Po Torch 1993 Matthew Shipp Duo with William Parker "Summertime" Yak'u'za 1995 TEST Ahead! Jazz Ramwong 1998 Arthur Doyle Electro-Acoustic Ensemble Plays The African Love Call Esoteric Yod 2001 Just to add my appreciation for this list. I know, and have. lots of them but that's just an endorsement to check out all those I don't. Quote
Rabshakeh Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago A funny thing about time periods is that, perhaps unlike mainstream jazz (where you could maybe argue that the Young Lions represented some sort of an end point), free jazz and improvisation really did go through a period of substantial progression after 1980. Just without thinking tol much, you had second wave / po-mo free improv; the US free jazz revival; late Loft stuff; EFI; punk free jazz; EAI and Onkyo; noise; harmolodic funk; the Downtown scene; etc. etc.. Lots of developments over the period and, in fact, a fairly clear narrative of change and development, focused on globalisation of scenes, new technology and arts institutions. Maybe it has ossified a bit now and maybe it hasn't, but those sort of issues happened long after 1980. So free jazz and improv post 1980 is a story that deserves to be told. A lot of it is stuck in the post-Counterculture / pre-digital dark zone and hasn't really been talked about like it deserves, and it feels like it is time someone really did. So thanks again to @colinmce. I believe that some of the other forum members have undertaken similar exercises too. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: A lot of it is stuck in the post-Counterculture / pre-digital dark zone and hasn't really been talked about like it deserves, and it feels like it is time someone really did. This. Quote
cayetano Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Some "essentials" by musicians not in the book: Bill Dixon, Intents and purposes. Lowell Davidson, id. Muhal Richards Abrams, Levels and degrees of light. Joseph Jarman, Song for. John Carter - Bobby Bradford, Seeking. Gracham Moncur III, New Africa. Jacques Coursil, Black suite. Arthur Jones, Scorpio. Amalgam, Prayer for peace. Dave Holland, Conference of the birds. Baikida Carroll, Orange fish tears. Sam Rivers, The quest. Leo Smith, Divine love. Bobby Naughton, The haunt. Henry Threadgill, X-75 vol. 1. Edited 1 hour ago by cayetano Quote
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