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Gato-confusion, more stimulating than a second cup of coffee! Point Jim was making was that Flying Dutchman wanted to key into the Pharoah audience with his former piano player, Lonnie Liston Smith, and that some people also said that Flying Dutchman wanted to key into that same Pharoah audience with Gato. Neither he nor I buy the Gato theory, but it is further confounded by the fact that Lonnie Liston Smith played with Gato after he left Pharoah. At any rate, be sure to check out Gato's 'El Pampero' album, live at the 1971 Montreux festival, with Lonnie Liston Smith and, amazingly, Chuck Rainey and Pretty Purdie, plus Sonny Morgan and Nana, creating a classic. There is, of course, no sense in every trying to put Gato on a BFT. He is always instantly recognizable, regardless of how good or how bad the cut is. But cut 12 is Lonnie Liston Smith with George Barron on sax, just to be clear! Still need ID on the cuts for 12 and 13 (we have the artist/album), and for everything on cut 11.

Mark, here is the album for #12

Agreed on both counts. Those are by far my favorite Gato Barbieri albums (especially 'El Pompero'), and to me, he sounds like Gato Barbieri on them, not like Pharoah Sanders. The first Lonnie Liston Smith album very much sounds like a Pharoah Sanders album, with an appropriate (though otherwise unknown, at least to me) sax player, and a couple of well-known tracks that Smith had already recorded with Sanders. That being said, it's a better Pharoah Sanders album than what Pharoah was putting out on Impulse at that time, where he was repeating himself and thrashing about some. Smith then found a way to smooth out and commercialize that sound more and more on each proceeding album until it was Muzak by the end. This album, though, still has a lot of guts to it, if not a lot of originality.

Mark, you are correct on the Harley (#13), and research is not only allowed, but encouraged! Now go ahead and name the track for full credit! +1.

11 and 13 are tough, but I'm actually surprised that the leader/album on 12 has not been identified. Will be one of those things where it is obvious once known. It is not obscure by any means.

No. But good guess. I need the third. Have been looking for it. Thankful to have the first two

Yes. It is! Understood. Not aware of the drummer's earlier records, thought this and its companion (1975 and 1976) were the first, so I'll have to research further. Please PM more info! I actually like the #12 leader's devolved recordings up to a point, until he switched labels, though each one was weaker than the one before.

He didn't record anything for that label.

Summary of what still needs to be ID'd: 4 - track needs to be ID'd, artists and album already ID'd as Lloyd/Higgins "Which Way is East?" 11 - Nothing ID'd yet. 12 - Nothing ID'd yet (except we know that it's NOT Pharoah Sanders) 13 - album and track need to be ID'd (Artist ID'd as Rufus Harley)

Thanks. It came to my attention late then. I grabbed it as soon as I read about it, which was not until this past October. Part of my feelings is based on that I despise much of their Richard Perry work, and don't actively desire to hear any of it except "I'm So Excited" ever again in my lifetime. I heard their early work before I ever heard LHR, so they were a gateway for me. If their "Cloudburst" is the only version you know, it sounds really good. And I think their "Salt Peanuts" is a marvel, even though they are clearly "trying" really hard. But something like "Yes We Can", "Wang Dang Doodle", and especially "Love in Them There Hills" is where the biggest payoff is for me.

No argument there! Yes it does!

Indeed! Thanks Thom!

I actually strongly disagree, but the record buying public is totally with you. Don't forget that Bonnie (who is singing here) left, which also greatly changed the group.

Best freakbeat group of them all?

Figuratively speaking, of course...

13 tracks ranging from early 60's to the 2000's. 80 minutes of music to alternately entertain, enlighten, or enrage you. No Gene Harris (sorry, Dan!) though I respect and enjoy him. This ranges farther off-center in several directions. ID guesses are great, but responses/opinions are even better. Thanks for your interest and participation! http://thomkeith.net/index.php/blindfold-tests/

The Gary Bartz album from the Left Bank, 'Home' is fantastic and desperately needs CD release. 'The Free Slave' by Roy Brooks from there is also great, and those both sound OK, much better than other recordings from there. I guess those two were meant for release when recorded?

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My favorites are probably his sextets with Lateef and with Charles Lloyd, but I find delights in the later Capitol and even the Milestone recordings also, and in the earlier Emarcy and especially Riveside albums.