Guy Berger

imho the Detroit set is stronger than the Ronnie Scott set, largely due to the presence of Pullen and Stubblefield who add some needed heft to the band. The Ronnie Scott ensemble feels a little too light for my tastes. Is this a good thing or a bad thing to you

Really sad about Joey D but very overjoyed to have Soulstation back!!!

Much less expensive on bandcamp!

Don’t love everything he was involved with (indeed, I ignore a lot of it) but he left a big mark on the world of music and jazz in particular

So sad…. She was only 39

Nicely stated.

I'm trying to think of a less extreme way of saying this but: jazz listeners and musicians are much more comfortable butchering Monk's music than Mingus's music.

I’d rewrite as “unfortunate that they couldn’t stop harassing women”

I think I’m only familiar with his collaborations with Muhal Richard Abrams, Julius Hemphill and Arthur Blythe, but that’s a lot of amazing music. Probably the most significant cellist in the history of jazz.

Listening to this. It’s excellent!!! A nice complement to their other collaborations.

Tough but fair! Really digging into Not One, Not Two this week. There are a lot of ECM piano trios that sound like this and make me doze off, but these guys are so locked in, it’s amazing. LOL!!!!!, https://ethaniverson.com/service-for-paul-bley/

He was the core of Davis’s 1970-75 live bands both musically and conceptually.

If I’m understanding JSngry right - I think he’s saying that we shouldn’t view Gato’s uncompromising avant-garde period just as a weird prelude to his “accessible but challenging” early 1970s music. It was interesting and valuable in its own right.

Yes - can be listened to on Spotify without interruptions. I’m on an older thread bashing this album… But I changed my mind, it isn’t that bad! Agreed that “Bali Hai” is good. Counter-but: unless you are an Eric Dolphy fanatic, you aren’t missing that much if you ignore Chico Hamilton records between the departure of Buddy Collette and Jim Hall, and the Charles Lloyd / Gabor Szabo incarnation of the band.

Why not Albert Ayler or Ornette Coleman? Both huge influences on Coltrane and this music.

Spending a lot of time with this fantastic album. Its interesting that Pharoah’s playing on this album harks back more to 1965 Coltrane than to 1965 Pharoah.

There was no deep thinking involved beyond “all star band”, “Eddie Henderson in both”, and “ ‘-ers’ in the name”

Didn’t know this - are the Cookers a successor band? And if so… why are the Cookers’ reputation more positive?

He’s the David Murray of his generation! I think the criticism of “he records too much” becomes less salient once the overhype fades into distant memory and you no longer feel obligated to keep up with every single release

HOT DAMN I can’t wait to hear this

I recently head The Window for the first time (w/Avenel and Jackson) and it's really good. TBH, I've struggled with some of Lacy's more abstract or vocal-oriented outings, but I enjoy him in relatively straight ahead settings like this one, the collaborations w/Waldron, and the solo saxophone Monk albums.

Yes, that one or Midnight Blue (which is my mental benchmark vs Blue Hour, given mood, presence of ST, and recording of "Gee Baby Ain't I Good to You").

Finally got around to hearing this for the first time a few months ago, via the Mosaic box - it’s exceptionally good. More straight ahead than I expected.

I think Wild Man Dance is great! (Also, a really great concert at the Temple of Dendur in NYC back in 2014 or 2015 - I’ve found Lloyd to be hit or miss live but he was great at that concert.) Passin’ Thru is really good too - imho it’s at the same level as Rabo de Nube on ECM. That said I’ve given most of the BN work beyond those 2 a cursory listen and spend a lot more time with the ECMs. I might pick up those trios or I might not. Over time, the albums I listen to the most are the 5 w/Bobo Stenson (esp Canto and Notes from Big Sur), The Water Is Wide, and Lift Every Voice.

I like this album, but it’s not my fave Turrentine nor is it my fave “late night low key” BN album. I’d give it a B- No offense intended toward the folks on this board who I respect a lot but really love this album.