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Two years ago I heard Sam Rivers lecture at a Borders here in Ft Lauderdale (he lives in Orlando, FL) the night before his trio played at the main library auditorium. One point he made in response to a question regarding "free" playing and the lack of acceptance of "avante garde" by most music listeners was that he didn't really care to listen to it most of the time either. But to play it, he said, was "exhilarating". He also said he considers himself primarily a composer and that he composes all the time. When I get the chance to hear a musician lecture and see them perform I can hear their recordings with a completely different perspective.

Taking the jocularity theme I'd include Dizzy Gillespie. He would say to the audience "and now let me introduce the members of the band". Then he introduced the members of his band.......to each other! They all shook hands. You could feel the warmth of his personality when he was on stage.

I had been a sales manager for various food service companies for 20 some years. I stopped when a close friend was diagnosed with a form of acute leukemia. She desparately needed a care giver and advocate. The last 4 years have been extremely difficult, frightening, and, after a successful stem cell tranplant, ultimately rewarding and inspirational. Susan is my hero and her doctor and nurses are role models for me. Yesterday we attended her first Cancer Survivor's get together. Very special day! Now thankfully we can breathe a little and I can find out where I fit into the working world again. Most likely I'm dead wood in my past career. The future's uncertain but I'm happy as can be.

I have all the cd's that I will ever need. Now I have to buy the latest Legacy Ellington reissues, then place an order for Chuck Nessa's Warne Marsh cd and the Uptown Parker (whenever it comes out), plus Mosaic's Mulligan Concert Band and the Adams/Pullen select later this year,........... Come to think of it I haven't been in the used cd stores for awhile. Never know what great finds might turn up.

I have to go with H too. From Al Haig to Bobby Hutcherson.....beats out the M's, Markowitz to Murray, but just barely.

I have a tape of the Pullen-Adams quartet called Song Everlasting. This group was so hot, with so much energy, playing so many styles that I felt like giving a standing ovation at the end. Outside of Art Blakey's Free For All, this is the most exciting studio recording I've ever heard. This is great news.

Yikes!!!! I'm reminded of Jack Nicholson kissing that beautiful woman in the tub (from The Shining)

A Breyers flavor I just discovered under their "no sugar added" line (feel less guilty eating this) is Chocolate Caramel. Now I don't care for caramel that much and low fat ice cream usually tastes lousy. But the caramel brought out the richness of the chocolate. This thread's making me hungry!

So there were two Shirley Shirleys? Shirley you jest

RainyDay, You asked, based on my last post, "what's untrue?" so I should give my opinion. My opinion is to forget insider trading. It was thrown out....she wasn't convicted of that crime. So let's assume she was innocent of insider trading. And let's assume the investigation would have concluded Ms. Stewart was innocent of insider trading. Her mistake IMO was how she chose to react to her investigation. Her reaction to being investigated by the federal government was to conspire against the investigation, obstruct the investigation, and make false statements to the investigators. Is the punishment for these crimes (they are crimes aren't they?) as severe as they would be for insider trading? Absolutely not. Should they be as severe? Of course not. Do they deserve to be punished based upon the law? IMO yes. When OJ got off all the talk was about how the wealthy can buy their way out of prison....two levels of justice, one for the rich and one for the poor.....celebrities are coddled by the justice system. Now that Ms Stewart has been convicted we hear that wealthy celebrities are unfairly targeted. Which is it?

RainyDay: Untrue. She had 5 counts she was being tried for. The first count, insider trading, was thrown out by the judge. She was tried and found guilty on the other 4 counts.

I played trumpet from junior high through college, so I liked brass. Had conservative taste as a kid listening to Herb Alpert and the Tijuana brass. This was followed by Chicago and B,S,&T. I much preferred the songs and groups that left room for the players to "stretch out" and solo. Two turning points: 1. B,S,&T's version of "Something Coming On" had an abrupt, jarring break in the song with a walking bass and tenor sax improv. At first I thought they ruined this exciting pop tune......soon I loved the arrangement (still love it). 2. Around the same time (early 70's), hearing a live recording of Miles Davis (possibly from My Funny Valentine) on the radio. My ears opened up and my education started.

These aren't the collectable LPs that Jim refers to, but around '77 or '78 I was slithering around every record store I could find buying all the Blue Note Reissue Series and Prestige two-fers for $2.99 each........music I never would have been exposed to otherwise (as well as great liner notes).

I haven't read any Burns'debates. From what I can tell there seems to be near unanimous condemnation of "Jazz". Have civil war and baseball bulletin boards criticized his work too?

That is your work Chris?! That is just excellent. Have you done others? Are you still painting/drawing?

Has Manhattan Symphonie (Columbia) made it to cd yet? That was one of my favorite listens when I had a working turntable.

My last post here is bugging me now. As a newbie here I figured everyone gets along well and that a good dig now and then is to be enjoyed. The fact is I've been reading posts here for a long time before I started posting. As a result I've learned lots by example, not the least being Chuck Nessa's integrity by valuing the music along with respect and concern for the musicians and their families.

Damn.....I thought I knew how to add a quote but I can't. So anyway Son-of-a-Weizen, that was FUNNY .

I also agree with Christiern (thank you for your warm welcome Chris after I wrote my first post; Free for All too). Saw her perform early/mid 90's maybe. I admired her band leading skills. Excellent experience for those younger musicians in her group. But her singing and facial expressions were so over the top I just kept thinking...... please, just once, sing a song.

b3-er, I should have added a smiley face to my last post since I think your question was directed at hardbop.

I'm not freaked out. I'm envious that I didn't get on e-bay then!

Who benefits from the sale of cutouts? Just excess inventory that a label needs to be rid of? Does the artist receive anything? If it wasn't for cutout prices on albums in the 70's I would never have been exposed to so many great musicians (such as on Blue Note, Prestige, and Milestone twofers for $2.99).

This reminds me of the ebay buyitnow prices of $60 each for a variety of Mosaic box sets a couple years ago. The owner died and his family just wanted to be rid of them.

I would like to know more about how they got their nicknames. One of my favorite characters from a novel is "Nickname" Demur (from Philp Roth's Great American Novel). He tried things like touching his baseball cap a lot so people might call him "Cappie" and so forth. Nothing stuck so they called him "Nickname".

What a unique thread! Thanks patricia. I know you said you don't take requests, but I'll throw this into the mix: Hezekiah Leroy Gordon "Stuff" Smith.