Bobby Hutcherson Boxed Set

[JSngry]

You really hear "Cuban"  in Montara?

I hear Hollywood, not Havana.

[danasgoodstuff]

I have an acceptable version of every album on this, so it's a 'no' from me.  I have about half of the BN Hutch that's not on this, might rectify that given the chance.  Favs are Dialog and Head On, least fav is hard to say since I find much of the '70s stuff is kind of forgettable to me, although I own and am keeping both Montara and Natural Illusions even though I don't think either is very good.  I should get Now just for comparison to other weird use of vocals on BN.  I'd buy the still not issued in full funk date in a flash, I like the 3 cuts I've heard.

Edited May 8, 2024 by danasgoodstuff

[jazzbo]

I think "Now" is a beautiful album and the previously unissued additional material perhaps even a hair better. I get why it would be excluded here (especially adding another disc to the set) but I would welcome a remastered return to the catalog.

[clifford_thornton]

For sure -- it's live and later, as I recall. But excellent nonetheless.

[Brad]

I was planning on ordering this but I see that I have about half the albums on cd and since Bobby Hutcherson isn’t someone I play a lot, I’m going to pass, for now anyway. 

[felser]

Of the later dates, the mysterious Live at Montreux album with Woody Shaw is spectacular.

[jlhoots]

1 hour ago, felser said:

Of the later dates, the mysterious Live at Montreux album with Woody Shaw is spectacular.

👍

[Stompin at the Savoy]

3 hours ago, felser said:

Of the later dates, the mysterious Live at Montreux album with Woody Shaw is spectacular.

Just realized I don't have that and downloaded the flac files from Presto.  $7.  Excellent!

Cover art: https://musicbrainz.org/release/74215367-4638-4c0d-8e84-5a2323c7cd18/cover-art

Edited May 9, 2024 by Stompin at the Savoy

[Pim]

As with a lot of Mosaics I already own all the material on cd or vinyl and not gonna spend 100+ euros for a few bonus tracks. Definitely a pass for me. Leaves me to say that the music is amazing. Bobby Hutcherson was pretty consistent this period in releasing top notch quality jazz music. I love all of these recordings 

[Eric]

On 5/8/2024 at 4:31 AM, jazzbo said:

I think "Now" is a beautiful album and the previously unissued additional material perhaps even a hair better. I get why it would be excluded here (especially adding another disc to the set) but I would welcome a remastered return to the catalog.

Yes, that!  I love the cover too.

[mikeweil]

On 5/8/2024 at 3:35 AM, JSngry said:

You really hear "Cuban"  in Montara?

I hear Hollywood, not Havana.

The base is Cuban, but of course filtered through Californian influences.

With Bobby Matos, Rudy Calzado, Victor Pantoja, Eddie Cano there is quite some Californian Cuban/Latin prominence on board. 

Edited June 13, 2024 by mikeweil

[JSngry]

On 5/8/2024 at 4:31 AM, jazzbo said:

I think "Now" is a beautiful album and the previously unissued additional material perhaps even a hair better. I get why it would be excluded here (especially adding another disc to the set) but I would welcome a remastered return to the catalog.

I would welcome some printed lyrics!

That L.A. Phil album is not bad, really. Besides the Hutch stuff, there's also some dandy Carmen McRae doing some standards with Bill Holman charts and some perfectly nice wallpaper by Earl Klugh. It could have stood a reissue in itself, especially if decent tapes of the whole gig still exist. 

[felser]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

I would welcome some printed lyrics!

That L.A. Phil album is not bad, really. Besides the Hutch stuff, there's also some dandy Carmen McRae doing some standards with Bill Holman charts and some perfectly nice wallpaper by Earl Klugh. It could have stood a reissue in itself, especially if decent tapes of the whole gig still exist. 

Was reissued on CD in 2013 in Japan for about five minutes, as usual for those Japanese reissues.

[JSngry]

I mean, it's not a lost classic, but it is certainly a pleasant record. I bought the LP a few months years ago,  cheap and on a whim with low expectations and was very pleasantly surprised.

Also, recorded in 1977 and released in 1978, it was one of the last releases by the "unbroken" Blue Note label name. I think that Carmen McRae had moved on by then, so maybe she owed them some tracks or something. Bobby had just moved on. Earl Klugh had graduated to the parent UA label, so Blue Note was already running on fumes.

And yet it's not a bad record at all and if there is more Hutch & McRae in the can from that gig, let's have a look!

Somebody?

[J.A.W.]

Belgian store TYQMusic is listing the upcoming Bobby Hutcherson Mosaic at a (for EU residents) very attractive price:

https://tyqmusic.eu/label/mosaic-records/

Their service and packaging are excellent.

[Fred]

2 hours ago, J.A.W. said:

Belgian store TYQMusic is listing the upcoming Bobby Hutcherson Mosaic at a (for EU residents) very attractive price:

https://tyqmusic.eu/label/mosaic-records/

Their service and packaging are excellent.

Just purchased, thanks a lot.

[Brad]

I’m passing.  I rarely listen to the material that I have so I don’t see the need to add this one. 

[mr jazz]

On 5/8/2024 at 8:26 PM, Stompin at the Savoy said:

Just realized I don't have that and downloaded the flac files from Presto.  $7.  Excellent!

Cover art: https://musicbrainz.org/release/74215367-4638-4c0d-8e84-5a2323c7cd18/cover-art

Did the same and thanks! I had a download purchase from 2012 that showed up so that was a bonus.

[Stompin at the Savoy]

They appear to have pushed out the shipping date and pre-order discount until June 24.

[JSngry]

I've been listening to Medina/Spiral on Spotify for my falling asleep music for a couple of weeks now. That might seem counter-intuitive, but no, in the process the details become very vivid and enjoyable.

Personally, I think that Stanley Cowell overall brings more to the table of this particular band than did Chick Corea on Total Eclipse, but that's not a knock on Chick, not at all.

[clifford_thornton]

I've actually never had the Montreux date on LP. Will probably download legally somewhere, curious.

[JSngry]

4 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I've actually never had the Montreux date on LP. Will probably download legally somewhere, curious.

It's ferocious!

[ghost of miles]

I’m sure it’s been mentioned upthread, but anybody wishing to hear some prime mid-1970s Hutcherson should track down that 2007 Mosaic Select (though it doesn’t include Montara, iirc).

[JSngry]

No Montara, Natural Illusions, or Linger Lane.

Both Now and Head On are also going to end up as Mosaic Orphans.

The first group I get. They're unabashedly commercial projects. The second one...not so much. They're not at all commercial. Now acts like it is, but it's not, not really. Imo.

[colinmce]

I personally think the Select is perfect, though I agree Montara would fit both spiritually and on the level of quality. Same is true of the Montreux recordings but both those and Montara stand well alone on their individual CD issues.

Linger Lane and Natural Illusions are worth a listen for the curious and completist but I have never been able to get much out of them over time. 

Head On quite frankly never did anything for me either, though I know a lot of people like it quite a bit. 

My final bit of unsolicited opinionating is that I would lop San Francisco off the new Mosaic. It's quite a good date but I don't find it to be on the level of the rest, the sound is spiritually just a bit different; the run from The Kicker through Spiral/Medina is just as perfect a program of music as you could ever ask for.