Brad

Don't forget to talk to your wife once a day. Right , so she can order the next set for you

Take 5, here's a recent discussion of Mosaic Boxes. If you're into jazz, Mosaic is indispensible. They put out stuff you can't get anywhere else and will never get anywhere else.

I'm not sure that makes sense historically since you're coming to listen to Bird from a post or late bop point of view. I believe that most of us when we think of Bird, think of the revolution or evolution (more correctly) that he and Dizzy wrought. That comes from the mid to late 40s. If you're looking for an entry point, something like the 2 cd set that Rhino put out, Yardbird Suite, is best. That was my entry point.

I'm going to second what most have already said. The Complete Savoy and Dial is essential and by the way includes more than those labels: the Red Norvo set with Bird and Dizzy, a tremendously important set. To start out with anything less is to cheat yourself. However, if you don't want everything, Proper has the Boss Bird set. Don't have it so I can't say. I don't have the Verve masters but if it's completeness you want, I'd go for the 10 CD box put out several years ago. I'm not that high on the Verve material as the Savoy-Dial. I can take the string material in small doses. Don't get me wrong, it's good and better than any other kind of string sessions done by other but it pales in comparison to Savoy-Dial, a key part of any jazz collection as there is (the Hot Fives and Sevens, being another key).

My son is ADD and for years we fought the medication. We tried many different things but none seemed to work. I can't tell you how many meetings we had with this neurologist, that psychologist or this school administrator. I believe that "educators" don't want to tolerate someone who is different and not easily manegabel and will cry ADD at the first sign. Eventually, we did try it and it has helped quite a bit. My son has other learning difficulties so it's not just the ADD. He has trouble concentrating and things like Concerta help a great deal. However, I think 3 is a very early age to put someone on a mind altering drug so I'd fight it or find out more. It's not easy but hopefully things will get better. I've read and heard that it is sometimes hereditary so I think it's possible that I may have it. When I grew up in the 50s, people who had trouble concentrating adjusted. I believe that's what I did, if I have it. I was certainly no great student in my early years. I don't know if you outgrow these things but concentration is not one of my problems. The point I'm trying to make is that today people are very different and just want to use medication/drugs to solve all problems. Tolerance would be helpful but generally seems to be in short supply for these kinds of problems.

According to Verve, as posted by montg, the Granz box set is coming out on October 5, which just happens to be my birthday. Is there a lucky coincidence there? Something to look forwrard and I know what I'm getting for my birthday

Those guys are so different, just musically, so there's no way they could even be similar plus Moose is so wacked out, there's no way that could be the same.

Dan, Since the cops don't seem to work, it would seem the next best thing is, unfortunately, a court. They must be violating some noise or nuisance statutes. It's unfortunate to have to resort to something like this but unless the cops step it up, you don't seem to have many other options. You shouldn't have to put up with this.

Thad Jones. How good is Billy Mitchell. This guy needs more recognition.

I'm at a conference so I can't relisten but I am surprised that it isn't who I thought it was. I didn't think the other guesses were right so I'm at a bit of a loss for Open the Door Richard.

Has anybody heard this. I was going to bed last night and turned on WBGO and was starting to doze off when one of the cuts from this album came on. He's got a real nice sound with a lot of different ideas coming out of his horn. It got me up and I wrote his name down so I wouldn't forget. I haven't seen his name too much although I see that he's on Danny D'Imperio's album Big Band Bloviation.

hah! I lied! you just sold your soul to the devil! Hmm. I didn't know Couwenberg meant devil in German

I'm not going to even ask what Rosey is

I'm glad I don't work at home. I'd never get anything done. I know others can do it but I would be so distracted.

True Blue is essential!

Jim, This may be a reach but did you try Peter Crawford at Stateside. He seems to get a lot of different things from Scandinavia.

Paul, that's true. Sorry for being pigheaded. That's why there's diversity. I remember somebody posting the same thing when I sold the George Braith cd and somebody else congratulating me for doing so.

Well, I've listened to Disc 2 and it's a honey of a disc and I don't have time now to post all my impression but I can see Ray really likes this artist. The phrase "Open the Door Richard" is a dead give away.

Resuming where we left off. I may not have thanked everybody sufficiently (except maybe for Tony, Dan, Jim R and Jim S), so thanks Couw, Randy, William, Jim Dye, Alexander, Thomas and Ray for the effort you guys have put in.

Well, it's good to be back. 7/4, Wesbed and I agree: we don't have a life unless it's Jazz!

Why are you selling Bud Powell. That's sacrilege, man.

I would have loved to see a Garner Mosaic. Too bad. I guess I'll just have to settle for the Classics.

Hey Ray, What's with the hucklebuck? I assume you know that's from Now's the Time but Bird never got proper credit for it.

I just peeked at some of the other answers and some of the other conversation about Disc 2, esp. track 3. That is without a doubt Bird and there is no question that is Now's the Time, originally on Savoy. That's Diz on piano, sitting in for Sadik Hakim (Argonne Thornton) and Miles on tp, Curly Russell and Max. If I didn't know that one, I should be shot. Been working on that one at home.

Before Mike Weil send the BFT police after me here goes for Disc One: 16. This is the best song of the disc; everybody is in sync and the sax is really stunning. He's really conveying a unique message. I don't know who he is but he's gifted. I'd buy this. 1. St. Louis Blues but to me the percussion ruins it. They're trying to do much around a fairly good pianist. 2. This would be another buy for me. No idea who the horns are but I get a sense that this song has roots in the Caribbean. 3. cool song. Made me laugh. No idea who but jazz does wash those troubles away. 4. No idea. Not crazy about the violin. 6. Earl Hines maybe. I'm a sucker for solo piano. 9. Don't get this or know this. Assume it's African or African based. Reminds me at times of a child's song. Raffi almost comes to mind. 10. Again too much percussion. 11. Don't know who but a good arrangement of a Broadway song. 12. This was great. Really restrained guitar just sets a pattern, a tone. 14. I don't who these guys are but this was fabulous. Playing over and under the theme. Might buy this. Puts you in a dance mood. I'll try to post about Disc 2 later. Thanks again Ray.