Niko

ah, had misread the "all of that"... lame to say the archive is exhausted... as if those few who actually listened to him didn't know better; but looking forward to montgomery and hill!

it's definitely not their archive that's exhausted (freddie roach, to name another one on Blue Note...), concerning the PJ hard bop stuff - Cuscuna put out quite a bit of that in mosaics (carmell jones, curtis amy, onzy matthews, gerald wilson...) i don't think cuscuna doesn't like the music in this case... seems like emi had a comparably hard time selling anything that didn't have a real big name on it or wasn't literally on blue note...

depends on where you set the cut... (btw, get better soon) the joey gallo wikipedia entry is pretty informative http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gallo while i already skipped this song before i knew anything about gallo, i still think it is an excellent album (though of course not as historically significant as earlier dylan albums... but historical influence isn't everything (obviously))

i'd strongly suggest to add Desire to that list...

seems like you badly need the sonny criss

hope we'll get it, too! there's quite a bit of stuff that's only on spotify (though i haven't compared lala, just deezer and lastfm), all four major labels and stuff like enja and tzadik...

can be streamed here or here at least in some parts of the world, second link is less convenient but probably more international... heard these for the first time last week - had expected them to be good, but not that good! especially those quartets with barry galbraith...

Jean Luc Ponty Quartet (with Michel Graillier) plays Canteloupe Island the archive has already grown considerably since you first posted the link (?)

amazing upon first impression (13 year old jacques thollot...) thank you!

confessions time... mingus sometimes loses me with overlong solos, say, on those live in europe discs...(not free jazz, but a similar "problem") black saint and the sinner lady has little to do with that, i saw sonny criss "sonny's dream" compared to it somewhere (didn't you buy that lately...?) which i found quite convincing, "richly textured" is what you call this type of music iirc... very interesting arrangements, the main soloist is charlie mariano... definitely no free jazz...

is anyone certain about the cleanhead vinson and joe alexander albums (which are missing from this list...)?

if you were me: Ah Um (if you didn't have that one) East Coasting The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady then Pithecantropus Erectus At the Bohemia

thank you, never couöd tell those boxes apart...

justed posted this in the other thread, this is the list we came up with last time... CLAY JAMES The sound of the Wide Open Space Apr 26,1960 Riverside 327 GORDON DEXTER The Resurgence of Dexter Oct 13,1960 Jazzland 929 JFK Quintet New Jazz Frontiers from Washington July 17 1961 Riverside 396 JOHNSON BUD The Four Brass Giants Aug 22 ,1960 Riverside 343 JONES SAM Down Home Aug 15,1962 Riverside 432 JORDAN CLIFFORD Spellbound Aug 10,1960 Riverside 340 MANGIONE CAP The jazz Brother Aug 29,1960 Riverside 335 MORGAN DICK At the Showboat May 04,1960 Riverside 1183 McBROWN LENNIE Eastern Lights Oct 13 ,1960 Riverside 346 SERRANO PAUL Blues Holiday Nov 8 ,1960 Riverside 359 WILKERSON DON The Texas Twister May 19 ,1960 Riverside 1186 Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson: Cleanhead and Cannonball - Riverside 3502 almost wish that less of these had come out on cd...

when we discussed this in the "box sets you'd like to see from concord" thread (had forgotten about that one) we ended up with this list: CLAY JAMES The sound of the Wide Open Space Apr 26,1960 Riverside 327 GORDON DEXTER The Resurgence of Dexter Oct 13,1960 Jazzland 929 JFK Quintet New Jazz Frontiers from Washington July 17 1961 Riverside 396 JOHNSON BUD The Four Brass Giants Aug 22 ,1960 Riverside 343 JONES SAM Down Home Aug 15,1962 Riverside 432 JORDAN CLIFFORD Spellbound Aug 10,1960 Riverside 340 MANGIONE CAP The jazz Brother Aug 29,1960 Riverside 335 MORGAN DICK At the Showboat May 04,1960 Riverside 1183 McBROWN LENNIE Eastern Lights Oct 13 ,1960 Riverside 346 SERRANO PAUL Blues Holiday Nov 8 ,1960 Riverside 359 WILKERSON DON The Texas Twister May 19 ,1960 Riverside 1186 Eddie "Cleanhead" Vinson: Cleanhead and Cannonball - Riverside 3502 definitely impressive... seems like Cannonball was fighting the New York based perception of the jazz scene...

I used to have the Wardell and Serrano LPs. Good but not overpowering, so they went when I was short of money. But I've regretted selling both since. In addition, there's the Don Wilkerson, the Newman/Clay and the Budd Johnson, which all came out on CD. Don't know the McBrowne. Actually, never even knew about it until just now. I think there were one or two others. Someone at "The Showboat" or something? I had the feeling from seeing the cover that was definitely dodgy, despite the producer. MG there is a someone at the showboat album, plus Clifford Jordan's Spellbound and the Resurgence of Dexter Gordon, both fine, both out on Cd... some on Jazzland as well I believe, like the James Clay Album... had three saxophone lessons from Daniel Jackson when i was 16, one of the best things in my life so far, so i'm a little biased about the McBrowne (two of Jackson's compositions are on the Clay album...); Roosevelt Wardell is the best thing about those newly surfaced Earl Anderza/Dupree Bolton tracks imho, so i got curious...

A "Cannonball Adderley - The Producer" Box... (if only for the Roosevelt Wardell, Lenny McBrowne and Paul Serrano albums - curious about those for years...); would also like to hear the Don Patterson that's not out on CD...

Happy Birthday!!

i like it when bands look good on stage... nothing that would turn a great concert into a bad one or vice-versa but still... they can wear whatever they want but i really appreciate when there is some coordination (or at least, a good overall picture); found it funny to notice that even robert smith of The Cure can't apparently say more than "we're a band that wears black" to his bandmates, having e.g. a drummer who always comes with a black t-shirt which makes him look more like a fusion guy (his hair has to do with it , too)... felt really sorry for my former saxophone teacher, he apparently talked about these things with the trumpeter, they tried to to look a bit "sharp" (no suits and ties but italian looking jackets) but they had no way of keeping ugly sweaters out of the rhythm section... enough of this...

Congratulations to the whole Alfredson family!

happy birthday!

Happy Birthday, Holy Ghost!

And also, I suspect, because their studies crossed disciplinary divides, having the effect of bringing economics closer to real life. I've thought frequently that the insight of game theorists that, to keep people playing by the rules, carrots are better than sticks but you can't abandon sticks, is one of the great revelations of human nature and explains much of the world. MG whose insight was that? and does one really need (formal) game theory to get there...

whatever they did, i guess most of the prize was awarded because they didn't stop at that observation...

thanks! fascinating reading... (though i still haven't understood whether nottamun town was forgotten in england until the fifties or whether it coexisted in the UK and the US)