clifford_thornton

Yeah, except that most consumers are not as picky as you or I. Walt Dickerson - Peace - (Inner City pressing)

Wasn't there already a thread about this?

I'd probably listen to either one of those records WAY more than Cluster... New vinyl tends to be on the rough side, in my experience. Even things you think will be "decent" quality, like Numero or Rearward, tend to have scuffs that click on a virgin play. To say nothing of your average Dischord or Matador pressing...

Jay Bennett RIP Sad news. I hadn't really followed Wilco too much, but it's a drag when any talented artist leaves the stage too early.

Yes, all three.

Nice work. Swingin'.

Ray Russell Arild Andersen Henk Haverhoek Charles Clark

Oh yeah!

This thread is getting into some real "song that never ends" territory. Hopefully it'll get closed so I don't feel compelled to comment!

John Patton - Boogaloo - (Blue Note, Rare Groove)

Well you gotta be careful on f'book and twitter as well - I've certainly cleaned up my act there after becoming "friends" with people from work and other professional organizations.

That seems expensive for that title. I have God Be In Us and a couple of others... somewhere... Didn't mean to be heavy handed about the Eyges records on M.U. Just too sloppy/lazy for me, especially considering the Chiaroscuro LP with Whitecage and Boykins was real nice.

Cafe Montmartre? Bummer ! Yup. Now, Gary Foster - Subconsciously - (Revelation) w/ Fischer, Budimir and sundry others.

Dennis Budimir - Alone Together - (Revelation)

Pere Ubu - New Picnic Time - (Chrysalis UK) Re: the grading thing, imagine getting an "EX" of Cecil's Debut in the mail and have a long scratch across one side. Back it goes...

Point taken, but it was just a suggestion.

I say shut the board down for a little while until Jim figures out how to revamp it.

I think there are too many people using the name "Cliff" on this board. I get confused.

I don't think there is anything wrong with occasional lapses into juvenilia - we're human. It's when that juvenile behavior is hurtful and negative that problems arise.

I think it was about a year ago that some similar stuff went down and more moderators were brought in. But it doesn't seem like the moderation has increased in scope. Which makes sense, I guess, because it's not a job that most of us in the posting community want to do. Hopefully increased moderation will calm things down a bit but certainly a name change might be worth looking into. I mean, this is a great resource though I admit I'd get a hell of a lot more done if it were unavailable...

I'd go with Orgasmatron but I'm afraid Woody Allen is a bit litigious these days. Should be - American Apparel is a terrible company.

Maybe the Orgasmo jazz forums? (sorry, had to go there)

Gerry Teekens got my copy for mucho bucks. Never seen that one in LP form. Must be rare as hen's teeth.

I know I've been guilty of the "boys' locker room" mentality from time to time and am trying to clean that up. I think the Getz thread, whatever bullshit might have been part & parcel from the get-go, escalated far beyond that once Sivma and Bev got into it. Sorry Bev, all due respect for your stance, but you were there when the pot got stirred. Clearly you've got some great stories and opinions formulated as a result of those experiences and I hope you stick around, too. But I'm not going to say that calling people out left & right won't raise some hackles - even if you were "there." And neveronfriday, sorry to see you go, but your comments in this thread are a bit oblique. Really.

I'd like to know more about the European gigs that fell through as a result of board antics. I know it's not really "my business," but it would help put some of this in perspective.