Pim Posted June 30 Posted June 30 for some reason this Woody record doesn’t get very high ratings. I think it’s excellent. Quote
Niko Posted June 30 Posted June 30 4 hours ago, Pim said: for some reason this Woody record doesn’t get very high ratings. I think it’s excellent. one of my favorites by Woody! Quote
Gheorghe Posted July 7 Posted July 7 My new found love: Lester Young. Believe me: I grew up only with the then contemporanious jazz and found somehow a way back to learn "bebop", but didn´t know much about pre bop. Now it´s strange, for some months or so, when I play a club and 2 sets of my favourite music, jazz rock, funk and stuff with spiritual messages, the last number very very often is just a really old old swing, mostly in Db, like Stompin´ At The Savoy, Moten Swing, Wrap your troubles in Dreams or so, where I usually toward the end let the boys play the riffs and thank the audience and once more present the members of the band. And through that, I got to Lester Young and fell in love with him. This is the first one, I have spinned it many times and saved on USB for long distance drives (to gigs or from gigs back) . I´m quite sure I´ll buy some more of him ! Now that I write this I start to think: I didn´t have him in mind when I somehow got into swing tunes for the last number in the last set, but now my IDOL SUN RA comes to my mind: Didn´t he also include sometimes an old swing tune ? Or my other Idols Pharoah Sanders , Archie Shepp. I heard Pharoah Sanders play the super old "Misty Night" and Shepp did "A Train" or "Stompin at the Savoy"...... after the first played their own music...... very tasty Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 7 Posted July 7 On 6/23/2026 at 3:17 AM, Brad said: Looks like selections from the 2 earlier albums "At Storyville I and II. I would not underwrite the title of this compilation ;-]] Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Prestige P-2407 - J.J.Johnson/Kai Winding/Benny Green/Willie Dennis "Four Trombones.... The DEBUT Recordings" - rec. 1953 - Engineer (remastering 1981): George Horn Quote
gmonahan Posted July 7 Posted July 7 54 minutes ago, jazzcorner said: Prestige P-2407 - J.J.Johnson/Kai Winding/Benny Green/Willie Dennis "Four Trombones.... The DEBUT Recordings" - rec. 1953 - Engineer (remastering 1981): George Horn 👍 Quote
Clunky Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Having spun the recent reissue of Voyage from Jerico I introduced it to a friend. He in turn pointed out that Tyler appears on the album below, something I'd forgotten. Rectified this evening David Wertman --- Kara Suite----(Mustevic Sound Inc.) rec. June 1976 - just over fifty years ago. Pretty classy stuff.. Quote
jlhoots Posted July 8 Posted July 8 On 6/30/2026 at 3:30 AM, Pim said: I have a Japanese facsimile CD of that one. Pretty good. Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 10 Posted July 10 Savoy MG 12036 (Japan 1984 K18 P 9344) - Milt Jackson - Frank Wess " Opus De Jazz " - rec. 1955 - Quote
Dub Modal Posted July 10 Posted July 10 3 hours ago, jazzcorner said: Savoy MG 12036 (Japan 1984 K18 P 9344) - Milt Jackson - Frank Wess " Opus De Jazz " - rec. 1955 - ❤️ Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 11 Posted July 11 I think I had a BYG version of that LP at one point. Recall it being quite good music (though the French pressing wasn't so nice). Quote
optatio Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) On 7/10/2026 at 4:56 PM, jazzcorner said: Savoy MG 12036 (Japan 1984 K18 P 9344) - Milt Jackson - Frank Wess " Opus De Jazz " - rec. 1955 - 16 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: I think I had a BYG version of that LP at one point. Recall it being quite good music (though the French pressing wasn't so nice). 👍- I have this German version from 1984 https://www.discogs.com/master/178116-Milt-Jackson-Frank-Wess-Kenny-Clarke-Hank-Jones-Eddie-Jones-Opus-De-Jazz-?image=3466010.SW1hZ2U6ODI4NzI5NQ%3D%3D Edited July 12 by optatio Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted July 12 Posted July 12 On 7/7/2026 at 1:32 PM, jazzcorner said: Looks like selections from the 2 earlier albums "At Storyville I and II. I would not underwrite the title of this compilation ;-]] No, certainly not. Not even the "Greatest" of the Roost catalog. But the titles of such compilations usually are wishful (marketing) thinking anyway if they are limited to the recordings from one single label only. BTW, they aren't all Storyville live recordings. "Standanavian" (= S'Cool Boys) and "Dear Old Stockholm" (Ack Värmeland du Sköna) are from a March 1951 session with Bengt Hallberg a.o. Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) 23 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: No, certainly not. Not even the "Greatest" of the Roost catalog. But the titles of such compilations usually are wishful (marketing) thinking anyway if they are limited to the recordings from one single label only. BTW, they aren't all Storyville live recordings. "Standanavian" (= S'Cool Boys) and "Dear Old Stockholm" (Ack Värmeland du Sköna) are from a March 1951 session with Bengt Hallberg a.o. Thanks for the additional Info. Dear old Stockholm was also issued on Roosr # 528 as well as "s'cool boys" but I dont have these. BTW Dear Old Stockholm was several times interpreted by Getz with Scandinavian groups. . Have the 1950 versions on the Roulette twofer (Getz & J. Smith years) Edited July 13 by jazzcorner Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, jazzcorner said: BTW Dear Old Stockholm was several times interpreted by Getz with Scandinavian groups. . Have the 1950 versions on the Roulette twofer (Getz & J. Smith years) In case you're referring to the "Echoes of an Era"-series twofer (RE-106), that's pretty much of a hodgepodge too in its compilation. If it hadn't been so very cheap from that estate sale last year I wouldn't have picked it up. Particularly since I already have some of the Johnny Smith Roost LPs on Fresh Sound. So lots of overlaps. However, the Dear Old Stockholm version on that Roulette "Johnny Smith-Stan Getz Years" actually IS the 23 March 1951 version that's also on your "Greatest" LP. And the correlation between the track listing and the session lineup details for side 2 and 3 of that Smith-Getz twofer actually is badly scrambled up. I cannot trace the source of that "caveat" right now but my copy had a few handwritten comments on the back too. So I did a comparison in the discographies. It was a somewhat long-winding affair but I ended up with this: This should be more like it, I think. Overall these Roulette "Echoes of an Era" twofers really are the plague IMHO. Incomplete sessions packaged together according to criteria that are unfathomable to anyone. In my (less knowledgeable ) student days in the early 80s I bought the Stan Getz twofer from that series (pompously called "The Best of Stan Getz" - another case like your "Greatest" platter ). A nice introductory item but I found out fairly soon what I was missing (as I had come to liking the Storyville sessions, in particular). But it took me literally decades to round up vinyls that had all the music (or almost all of it) because sensibly programmed Roost LPs were not common. I ended up with copies of "Stan Getz at Storyville" (Vogue Jazz Double VJD 554) and "It Might As Well Be Spring - The Complete Roost Sessions" (Vogue Jazz Double VJD 573). And so that "Best of" twofer is now relegated to my fleamarket crate at last. And finally, about the "Dear Old Stockholm" title, it really is like Jutta Hipp so correctly said in her intoduction to that tune on her "Hickory House" LP: "... Edited July 13 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Brad Posted July 13 Posted July 13 On 7/7/2026 at 7:32 AM, jazzcorner said: Looks like selections from the 2 earlier albums "At Storyville I and II. I would not underwrite the title of this compilation ;-]] It was very cheap. I think only $2. Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) 9 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: In case you're referring to the "Echoes of an Era"-series twofer (RE-106), that's pretty much of a hodgepodge too in its compilation. If it hadn't been so very cheap from that estate sale last year I wouldn't have picked it up. Particularly since I already have some of the Johnny Smith Roost LPs on Fresh Sound. So lots of overlaps. However, the Dear Old Stockholm version on that Roulette "Johnny Smith-Stan Getz Years" actually IS the 23 March 1951 version that's also on your "Greatest" LP. And the correlation between the track listing and the session lineup details for side 2 and 3 of that Smith-Getz twofer actually is badly scrambled up. I cannot trace the source of that "caveat" right now but my copy had a few handwritten comments on the back too. So I did a comparison in the discographies. It was a somewhat long-winding affair but I ended up with this: This should be more like it, I think. Overall these Roulette "Echoes of an Era" twofers really are the plague IMHO. Incomplete sessions packaged together according to criteria that are unfathomable to anyone. In my (less knowledgeable ) student days in the early 80s I bought the Stan Getz twofer from that series (pompously called "The Best of Stan Getz" - another case like your "Greatest" platter ). A nice introductory item but I found out fairly soon what I was missing (as I had come to liking the Storyville sessions, in particular). But it took me literally decades to round up vinyls that had all the music (or almost all of it) because sensibly programmed Roost LPs were not common. I ended up with copies of "Stan Getz at Storyville" (Vogue Jazz Double VJD 554) and "It Might As Well Be Spring - The Complete Roost Sessions" (Vogue Jazz Double VJD 573). And so that "Best of" twofer is now relegated to my fleamarket crate at last. And finally, about the "Dear Old Stockholm" title, it really is like Jutta Hipp so correctly said in her intoduction to that tune on her "Hickory House" LP: "... Thanks Steve for you opinions and add. Information. As it ooks we both are very interested Getz and also Johnny Smith fans. BTW Getz is my favorite Tenorsax player. Have about 124 Getz Items (vinyls & CD's) in my collection and in addition to that I am also a Johnny Smith Fan (with 22 Items). For my Getz collection I have the revised Arne Astrup Stan Getz Discography and could find all the titles and tracks you had mentioned and commented on. As to the Roulette twofer compilations I do agree that the discographical data may be not the best but at that time when they werde available I bought a few, among the the Getz/Smith twofer because the music was available again. Roos was very hard to get in Germany. Here is my Smith listing ( the Getz listing would be too big to post it here in the forum - but you can have it via pm if interested) Smith,Johnny ...Quintet - Jazz at N.B.C. series 1952-53 Roost(jap) Smith,Johnny Designed for you 1959/60 Roost Smith,Johnny Easy Listening 1955 Roost Smith,Johnny Echoes of An Era - J.Smith/Stan Getz Years 1950-62 Roulette (twofer) Smith,Johnny Johnny Smith 1967 Verve(jap) Smith,Johnny Johnny Smith's Kaleidoscope 1967 Verve Smith,Johnny Moods 1953 Roost Smith,Johnny Phase II Johnny Smith 1968 Verve Smith,Johnny The Johnny Smith Foursome 1956 Roost Smith,Johnny The Johnny Smith Foursome Vol II 1957 Roost Smith,Johnny The Johnny Smith Quartet 1955 Roost Smith,Johnny The new Johnny Smith Quartet 1956/06 Roost Smith,Johnny The sound of the Johnny Smith Guitar 1961 Roost Smith,Johnny Walk,dont run! 1954 Roulette Willie (Germany) Re: 2 LPset (Japan) Edited July 13 by jazzcorner scans added Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Thanks, but actually I am no particular Johnny Smith "fan". I have a few of his recordings as part of my interest in jazz guitarists (particularly of the 50s in this case) but he is not at the top of my list. As for Stan Getz, anyone who is into jazz of the 1945-60 era, in particular, needs a healthy dose of Getz. So of course a fair number of his records found their way here. But truth be told, I tend to go to Zoot Sims and Al Cohn more often in my listening (but am no completist there either). Otherwise, as you said - Roost was not served well on the reissue market here for a long time. Japanese vinyl usually was out of my price range when they were new so I did not even look too far there, and even today I'd not be prepared to pay a premium for them. The Japanese "Split Kick" double LP has exactly the same contents as my Vogue Jazz Double "Complete Roost" LP (including the alternates) so the Vogue will do for me forever. Quote
jazzcorner Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Big Beat Steve said: Thanks, but actually I am no particular Johnny Smith "fan". I have a few of his recordings as part of my interest in jazz guitarists (particularly of the 50s in this case) but he is not at the top of my list. As for Stan Getz, anyone who is into jazz of the 1945-60 era, in particular, needs a healthy dose of Getz. So of course a fair number of his records found their way here. But truth be told, I tend to go to Zoot Sims and Al Cohn more often in my listening (but am no completist there either). Otherwise, as you said - Roost was not served well on the reissue market here for a long time. Japanese vinyl usually was out of my price range when they were new so I did not even look too far there, and even today I'd not be prepared to pay a premium for them. The Japanese "Split Kick" double LP has exactly the same contents as my Vogue Jazz Double "Complete Roost" LP (including the alternates) so the Vogue will do for me forever. 👍 😁 Quote
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