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Date: January 18, 1957 Location: Van Gelder Studio, Hackensack, NJ Label: Prestige Gil Melle Septet Gil Melle (ldr), Art Farmer (t), Hal McKusick (as), unknown (ts), Gil Melle (bar), Teddy Charles (vib), Vinnie Burke (b), Ed Thigpen (d) a. 1058 Funk for Star People(Gil Melle) / arr: Gil Melle - 6:37 b. 1059 Golden Age(Gil Melle) / arr: Gil Melle - 6:46 c. 1060 Herbie(Gil Melle) / arr: Gil Melle - 4:21 All titles on: Prestige CDOJCCD-1753-2 — Gil's Guests (1990) Prestige/Victor (Jpn.) CDVICJ 41385 — Gil's Guests (2006) Fresh Sound (Sp.) CDFSR-CD 479_2 — The Complete Prestige Recordings (1956-1957) (2008) Prestige (Eu.) CD00025218175326 — Gil's Guests (2009) Universal (Jpn.) CDUCCO 5263 — Gil's Guests (2014) Solos: a - unknown (ts); Art Farmer (t); Gil Melle (bar); Teddy Charles (vib) b - Gil Melle (bar); Teddy Charles (vib); Hal McKusick (as) c - Hal McKusick (as); Art Farmer (t); unknown (ts); Vinnie Burke (b) These 3 tracks were never issued on the original LP, Prestige 7063 and apparently destined for an LP that was never completed. The personnel have generated much controversy. Here is an historical summary: 1. Donald Byrd (t), Phil Woods (as), Gil Melle (bar), Joe Cinderella (g), Vinnie Burke (b), Ed Thigpen (d) This lineup appears first in: (a) Jepsen's Jazz Records 1942-1962 (1963) and repeated in: (b) Ruppli's Prestige Records Discography, 1972 and 1980 editions; (c) Bruyninckx Discography, 1977 and 1987 editions; (d) Liner notes to Prestige OJCCD-1753-2 (1990). 2. The Lord Discography (1996 print edition) shows: Art Farmer (t), Hal McKusick (as), poss. Seldon Powell (ts), Gil Melle (bar), Teddy Charles (vib), poss. George Duvivier (b), poss. Shadow Wilson (d). 3. Personnel provided by Gil Melle in a 1999 interview with Rudy Van Gelder historian Dan Skea: Art Farmer (t), Hal McKusick (as), Zoot Sims (ts), Gil Melle (bar), Teddy Charles (vib), Joe Cinderella (g), Vinnie Burke (b), Ed Thigpen (d). Melle was particularly emphatic about the presence of Sims and Charles and frustrated by their omission from the Original Jazz Classics CD liner notes. 4. Personnel in the Bruyninckx Discography, 2004 pdf edition - same as 2. 5. Personnel shown on Fresh Sound FSR-CD 479_2 (2008) and in the Lord Discography, current online version (2009): Art Farmer (t), Hal McKusick (as), Seldon Powell (ts), Gil Melle (bar), Teddy Charles (vib), George Duvivier (b), Shadow Wilson (d). After being troubled by this session for years, I recently (August 2009) have revisited it in an attempt to definitively identify the participants. Unfortunately, that goal remains elusive. Nonetheless, here are some of my conclusions: 1. The early information, repeated on the 1990 CD reissue, is wrong. A vibraphone and tenor sax are clearly audible and the trumpeter and alto saxophonist are definitely NOT Byrd and Woods, respectively. 2. No guitar is audible on any of the tracks. 3. The musicians present beyond any doubt (aural evidence) are Farmer, McKusick, Melle and Charles. 4. Despite what Melle indicated in the 1999 interview, the tenor saxophonist is NOT Zoot Sims based on aural evidence (confirmed in a phone conversation and email exchange with Hal McKusick). It could very well be Seldon Powell but to me, that remains insufficiently substantiated and so I am listing the tenor sax player as unknown until I find compelling evidence for Powell or anyone else. 5. The bassist and drummer sound to me much more like Burke and Thigpen than Duvivier and Wilson, respectively. Hal McKusick's recollections of the session lean in the same direction. from Noal Cohen's Teddy Charles Discography https://attictoys.com/teddy-charles-discography/#sess-year_1957

Saw the same duo here in Brisbane (Australia) round the same time, even spoke to him after the concert. Also loved his artwork, much of it adorning LP & CD covers RIP Peter, one of the greats

Emailed John from JIB & just received a reply - download has now been corrected Hi Stephen, Those glitches in Southampton 1 must have occurred during the upload to Bandcamp... someone else spotted them yesterday... so we have replaced that track and it's fine now for new downloads. Thanks for alerting us. Best John Jazz In Britain

anyone listened to the recent JIB release Trevor Watts' Original Drum Orchestra "The Art Is In The Rhythm", Vol. 2 Two concerts (Cardiff & Southampton) from 1989 - almost 3 hours Looking to be one of my favourite JIB releases - has echoes of McGregor & The Blue Notes (sans piano), Brotherhood of Breath etc the violin & Watts soprano blend beautifully with the traditional African instruments As usual I've downloaded & created two CDrs for better SQ listening - unfortunately on the first Southampton track (Disc 2, track #2) there are 5 dropouts, each of 4 seconds between 30:25 & 31:34 - I've excised these using Audacity & created a modified file. Anyone else heard these dropouts on their downloads or CDs.

I've been a listener of Fahey's for years, well before the term "American Primitive" was coined for his (and others) "category" of music

there's the connection but his relationship with Fahey goes deeper than that https://www.furious.com/perfect/fahey/fahey-winston.html

"Taken from a compilation of recordings from 1961-2 in Horace Tapscott's archive" I presume the other 5 titles on this 2LP set are from the same time period (61-62) What's the label behind this?

both the LP & CD are OOP on the Dutton/Vocalion site (second hand prices have increased significantly on Discogs since) - BTW, there's virtually no (cept for 1 CD) remaining Harriot & related material remaining on their site

Just sourced these two Fresh Sound CDs - solo Martial Solal recorded by Ross Russell at the Whitney studios (Glendale) in June of 66 - beautifully recorded on a Steinway Ross planned to release this material on two LPs but it never eventuated. Over two hours of Martial's magic. Maybe this has been mentioned previously (couldn't find anything on search) as the CDs are from 2017/18 https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/martial-solal-albums/6637-solo-piano-unreleased-1966-los-angeles-session-volume-1.html?search_query=martial+solal&results=26 https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/martial-solal-albums/6692-solo-piano-unreleased-1966-los-angeles-session-volume-2.html?search_query=martial+solal&results=26

same here, I'm drooling!! love the cover pic Tempted to get the vinyl this time

Confront Recordings have just released a 6CD Alan Skidmore retrospective, the vast majority of the material previously unreleased https://confrontrecordings.bandcamp.com/merch/alan-skidmore-a-supreme-love-6xcd-box-set-twenty-page-booklet

So, if it's Nov 1 or 2 then here's the musician listing from Campbell/Trent Sun Ra p/synth, Michael Ray tp/vo, Eddie Gale tp, Chris Capers flh, Tyrone Hill tb/vo, Marshall Allen as/fl/perc, John Gilmore ts/cl/vo, Ronald Wilson ts/bs, James Jacson bsn/fl/cowbell/perc, Kash Killion clo, Bruce Edwards el g, Jothan Callins el b, Buster Smith dm, announc/T-shirt sales, Elson Nascimento surdo grande/chimes/perc, June Tyson vln/vo India Cooke vln was only present on Nov 1 Bay area musicians (Cooke, Killion, Wilson & Gale) took part in the Oakland concerts some multitasking here - see Buster Smith's duties

If it's Nov 3 then Pharoah Sanders & Julian Priester should be present - they were absent on Nov 1 & 2

according to Campbell/Trent "Earthly Recordings of Sun Ra, 2nd edn" the Arkestra (minus Ra) played at Koncepts Cultural Gallery (Oakland) on Feb 1 & 2, 1991 then with Ra from Nov 1-3 (ie 5 different dates) Is there a date mentioned on the DVD? if so I can give you more musician details

https://jazz.centerstagestore.com/pages/john-coltrane wanna buy a tee, tote bag or mug ? also https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179098682/john-coltrane-eric-dolphy-village-gate-1961-lost-album?

That was beautiful - what a gorgeous, gracious & humble multi-talented person Bill is He reminded me of another contemporaneous bass player Peter Ind

The single got to #29 here in Australia (Oct 8, 1966)

In the early 90s a friend here in Brisbane showed me his Mosaics (DeFranco, Grant Green, Bechet) just as I was getting serious about jazz (had dabbled with Davis, Coltrane previously) - he also gave me a few Joe Henderson LPs (80s pressings). I was converted - first sets were the Mingus & Taylor Candids in 93 (I was 36)

I was lucky enough to see Stan & band here in Brisbane, Australia circa 1996 - may have been promoting the ST Octet "Portraits Plus" release (fantastic album IMHO) - I know Art & Clark were present. I even taped the concert - still have it somewhere

Rickie has a special importance here in Australia but most of our population would not be aware that she (& Becker) wrote "The Horses". It was a massive hit (got to #1) here in Australia covered by Darryl Braithwaite (ex 70s pop band Sherbert) in 1990. It has become an australian musical meme & absolutely adored by my children's generation (20 yo's+). The vast majority of australians will claim that Braithwaite wrote it. I heard her perform it plus a number of her composition at the Blues & Roots Festival (Byron Bay) not that long ago. BTW that's Ricki on the inside & back cover of Tom Waits' "Blue Valentine" LP

I hear you re the music & the unique cover art work - I ended up getting (157 CDs) almost the entire catalogue when Japanese Solid did a complete label CD release round 10 years ago. It was released in 5 batches of approximately 30 between 2012 & 2014 plus there were a number of bonus CDs available only in Japan (a friend there was able to source them for me after I sent her my collected coupons that came with the standard CDs) https://www.discogs.com/label/732399-Bethlehem-Album-Collection-1000 So, I'd say I've got the Bethlehem fetish too

my copy (Australia bound) arrived yesterday I'm very happy with the SQ & the fact that they are transferring from the raw master reels. Will be interested to hear the comparison between the "tweaked" version of Noissesprahs (SharpSession) from the original 2LP/2CD "Live At The IUCC" compared to the "raw" version on Vol. 6 I'll probably have my sets shipped in two batches of 5

In 2020 Octave-Lab/Ultra-Vybe (Japan) released all 3 versions of "A Message From The Tribe" (amongst other Tribe releases) - The "Message...." double CD contained the B side of the original 1972 version, full 1973 second version plus the 1974 remastered/remixed version. The A side of the original 72 version was released as bonus tracks on the "An Evening With The Devil" CD. A much much cheaper way of getting this music if you don't mind the digital medium On current conversion rates that box will set me back over $Aus700 (not including shipping) - it's not in my price range for what you actually get https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/OTLCD-2475 https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/OTLCD-2476

Oh yeah!!, I second that emotion Carr's interpretation of Oldham & Penn's "Dark End Of The Street" is one of the best - The UK Ace "Goldwax Singles" compilation is essential for any soul collection. His 90s recording "Take Me To The Limit" is a stunner Also shout outs to O.V. Wright, Syl Johnson & Otis Clay

Jutta has been "boxed" - Be! Jazz released a 6CD+DVD set including a massive casebound book covering her life plus her artwork a few years back https://www.bear-family.com/hipp-jutta-the-life-and-art-of-jutta-hipp-6-cd-1-dvd-box.html Be! Jazz label may be a bit suss but this set has been so well done - doesn't have the look of a cheap "knock off" - the whole production looks like a labour of love. The transfer quality is excellent, the book is stunning.