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just corrected the title - many thanks for the tip

Have just tried to modify it, seeing I was the one who started the thread but I don't think i'm able to do so - does it have to be a moderator?

I did make a copy of that DEMS article in 2011 & have kept it in the Mosaic box & actually went back to that article the other day when I noticed what I thought was the anomaly mentioned above. Anyway, it looks like I didn't listen closely enough - the two alternate takes on the Mosaic set are definitely different - confirmed by multiple listenings & looking at waveforms through Audacity. The reason why the Neatwork versions sounded different was due to poor sonic quality (the Mosaic versions sound so much better/cleaner) & take C being slower than the Mosaic version, hence the longer timing. I also put both of these tracks through Audacity & both takes did coincide with their counterparts in the Mosaic set. Sorry all for the bum steer.

I have to say I stand corrected - what gave it away from me was the trumpet solos at 2:40 - they are quite audibly different - that is for your two versions & mine also - put the two tracks through audacity & there are variations in the wave forms between the two. Generally though the two tracks sound very similar ie start & end sound identical. Why is the version on the Neatwork CD so different & Ellingtonia website omits one version from the Mosaic box?

I agree - 3rd or more Then why do the alternate takes on the Neatwork CD sound so different (plus have different timings - 3:09 vs 3:16 on my computer) I've shot off an email to Mosaic - see what they have to say.

Just listened again - the trumpet solos at 1:27 sound identical (tracks 21 & 22)

AFAIK - As far as I know Thanks for the update - hadn't used the Ellingtonia site before (looks comprehensive) - I've been using DEMS/DESOR - sad to see the cessation of this great resource - hopefully it will get "kick started" again

Wasn't sure whether to place this in Mosaic or Discography categories but here goes I've just noticed that the two alternate takes of Blackbird Melody, pt 2 (Disc 4, tracks 21 & 22) appear identical audibly (& timing 3:06) on the Mosaic set - can anyone else confirm that? On The Neatwork CD "Duke Ellington Alternative Takes, Vol. 4 (33-36)" the two alternates sound very different & have varying timings - tk B (3:05) & tk C (3:12). Looks like Mosaic used both alternate takes B in their set!! This hasn't been mentioned at the DEMS site AFAIK.

Fascinating!! (at least it's not April 1st) going to try this on some of my discs that don't play (If I can remember which ones they are). So, this works on both CDr's & commercial discs?

that makes sense - The FMR CD booklet looked cheap - often wondered if it was legit - the CD does not appear to be a CDr

I have an FMR CD of Morning Glory - was released in 1995

Someone should snap up the FMP double "Live In Berlin" - highly recommended IMHO live at the "Quartier Latin" (Free Music Market 1971) - was originally released as 3 FMP LPs

That's good that they're are completing some of the artists - will have to add these to my list BTW, "Windward" Passages was in the second Murray box A Bobby Bradford set would be nice IMHO - that would include 2 John Carter releases (4 discs in toto)

Just had a listen - it's also present on my copy - gotta listen closely as it could be easy to miss

Does anyone have a current email contact for Hazel - I attempted to contact her a few months back (last September) but have had no reply as of yet ogunrecords@googlemail.com -> is this still current? Where on Facebook is this posting - couldn't find anything re this new release after multiple searches

SME's Karyobin on Chronoscope but that's all going to change soon with the upcoming Japanese release Derek Bailey/Han Bennink Organ of Corti CD 09 (was Incus LP)

Not totally Jazz but I'd love to be at this years "All Tomorrow's Parties" (April 15-17, Pontins, North Wales) https://www.atpfestival.com/events/atp042016/lineup There are a number of jazz participants - Sun Ra Arkestra, Alan Wilkinson, John Edwards, Steve Noble, Han Bennink, Evan Parker, John Russell, Steve Beresford, Tania Chen, David Toop, The Ex Also if you're into folk, Shirley Collins & John Kirkpatrick (he & The Trembling Bells are doing the "No Roses" LP) I'd also like to see Rocky Ericson, The Raincoats, The Fall, Thurston Moore, Shonen Knife Dave Graney & The Necks are coming from Australia

thanks for the link - all the Blue Note titles can be downloaded as MP3's - unfortunately the link to the CD takes you to the old Charly version (The Apartment Sessions, Vol. 1) which contains only half of the titles

I'd say Tom has indeed updated the discography from this information

Check this link http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~ux5t-oois/records.html find Catch Me (1963) then click on Details then at very bottom of this page click on Please Check at #20-1 to get info on Mosaic set I think this is the information I gave Tom a few years back to update the Pass discography BTW what is the version of Lord you are using?

their limited edition "Fridge" box set from 2012 was a marketing hoot Only 10 copies & cost $100,000 (100, 000 pounds in the UK) - wonder if they sold the lot? http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/10/the_residents_s.html

My favourites are Third Reich & Roll, Meet The Residents & Not Available At one stage it was rumoured that Don Van Vliet was a member of the band They played here in Brisbane in the mid 80's - memorable concert (tophat-eye phase) - probably around the time of the Tokyo tour (with Snakefinger) - he wasn't present at our concert though

thanks for the link bichos - all previously unreleased choice material - will get this with my next import CD order

Looks like Karyobin is going to be released in Japan in March (a bit pricey - 2667 yen) http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-77702

Blue Note released 5 10" LP's of Garner's recordings (recorded in Timme Rosenkrantz's NYC apartment? in late 44-early 45) Doesn't appear these are readily available ATS They have been released over a few CDs from the Chronological Classics series, the Danish Official label (3LP or 2CD) & Charly (Le Jazz) has released half of the tracks on a CD called "The Apartment Sessions, Vol. 1" - doesn't look like they ever did a volume 2. This would be a lovely reissue project as there were also other titles from these sessions released on other labels (Dial, Selmer, Century) - would be great to have all of this material together. Interesting to see what will be reissued in the future since Martha Glaser (Erroll's manager) has donated a lot of his material/recordings to the University of Pittstburgh - the "Concert By The Sea" is a good example of a well done job.