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Too right Youngs version of "Wild is the wind" is dire

If its Jackie you are after then "Let Freedom Ring" is a great place to start ( think it's due the RVG treatment later this year) The Sam Rivers Mosaic is in a similar bag and highly recommended

The sound is fine on this set. I notice little difference compared to the 1988 BN issue of "One step.." or the Conn of "Destination Out". Ear floss for the next person who casts against this mighty set. It's about the music ... don't forget.

Rescued this in the hopes of bringing on interest in the wonderful Eddie Costa king ubu Member Member # 4068 posted February 21, 2003 02:41 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Almost nothing to be found on this great musician. I know there are some out there who like Costa at least as much as I do (are you with us, Lon?) Just yesterday gave the VSOP Quintet disc a spin and absolutely love it, especially the arrangement of "Nature Boy". Then there is his "Guys and Dolls Like Vibes" (VME) with Bil Evans, his sideman-work on Tal Farlow's "This Is" (VEE) and "Swingin' Guitar of" (Verve by Request), the one Blue Note Session by Farlow. Those few records give me enough to marvel again and again what a great musician Costa was! (By the way: wasn't he on the Sal Salvador Blue Note session either?) ubu -------------------- The past is a foreign country - they do things differently there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 48 | From: Zurich, Switzerland | Registered: Jan 2003 | IP: Logged Lonson Member Member # 3668 posted February 21, 2003 05:19 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm a big Costa fan. I've mentioned him a number of times on the board. Several of my favorites are the Savoy sessions of Ver Planck and Cuozo on which he appears. . . he just sparks it all up! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1414 | From: Austin, Texas | Registered: Oct 2002 | IP: Logged Brownian Motion Member Member # 4117 posted February 21, 2003 05:20 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie made a nice record as accompanist to tenor sax man Mike Cuozzo in the mid-50s. He appears on at least a couple of Hal McKusick dates from the late 50s. He was also part of a sterling little band, along with Thad Jones, that Coleman Hawkins put together for a recording date in '59 or '60. He also recorded with Clark Terry in the early 60s. -------------------- The World is Waiting for the Sunrise... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 69 | From: PA | Registered: Jan 2003 | IP: Logged brownie Member Member # 2681 posted February 21, 2003 05:20 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ubu, damn right you are. There's not enough talk about Eddie Costa. So much energy in each of his solos. He was on a lot of dates as sideman (yes, he was on that Sal Salvador BN session) and recorded too few albums under his name: the Mode/VSOP quintet, the 'Guys and Dolls' session with Bill Evans, the beautiful 'House of Blue Lights' on Dot (a trio date) that cries for reissuing. Another rare album is a Verve Newport 1957 with the Costa quartet (plus tracks by Rolf Kuhn, Mat Matthews and Don Elliott) that also needs to be reissued. There is also an excellent Eddie Costa/Vinnie Burke date on Jubilee that was reissued by Fresh Sounds. All the albums from the Tal Farlow trio with Eddie Costa and Vinnie Burke (on Verve and Xanadu) display exciting music. The perfect Eddie Costa solo is on Tal Farlow's 'Tal' album on Verve. A distinctive low-register solo that is instinctively recognizable. Short and beautiful. The man died much too young. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 518 | From: paris, old europe | Registered: Feb 2002 | IP: Logged peter rh Member Member # 1963 posted February 21, 2003 05:52 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie is on 3 or 4 tracks of the Tubby Hayes/ Clark Terry New York Sessions.Eddie was acutally working at Birdland while the recording was being done and his numbers were done during intermissions.Don't know the title for the other dates with Terry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 317 | From: Coventry England | Registered: Jul 2001 | IP: Logged Clinton Forry Member Member # 722 posted February 21, 2003 07:47 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have also spoken up a few times about Mr. Costa's fantastic talents. My favorite setting is in the trio with Vinnie Burke and Tal Farlow. I see that the dubious Definitive Records is putting out the Xanadu LPs. Someone has it on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=2509875523 I cannot find any information about the Verve Newport 1957 album. I saw it on ebay only once. His stuff seems to catch a premium each time. How is he on the Phil Woods album Bird Feathers? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 405 | From: Minneapolis | Registered: Mar 2000 | IP: Logged weizen Member Member # 833 posted February 21, 2003 07:59 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been spinning "House of Blue Lights" a good bit lately. You can still get it over at Amazon Japan for $15...worth every penny. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3431 | From: Metro Washington, D.C. | Registered: Apr 2000 | IP: Logged Peter Friedman Member Member # 2896 posted February 21, 2003 02:01 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here are some of the CDs with Eddie Costa in my collection. Clark Terry - Mellow Moods - Prestige Bird Feathers - various alto players - Costa only plays on the three Hal McCusick tracks Coleman Hawkins - Bean And The Boys - Fresh Sound Coleman Hawkins - The hawk Swings Vol. 1 & Vol. 2 - Fresh Sound Shelly Manne - 2 3 4 - Impulse I also have, House Of Blue Lights, Guys and Dolls, the trio on jubilee, the Tal Farlow sessions and some others too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 341 | From: Tucson, AZ | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged Peter Friedman Member Member # 2896 posted February 21, 2003 02:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It has been pointed out by some that pianist John Williams who played with Getz, Zoot, & Brookmeyer among others, has a style similar to Eddie Costa's piano playing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 341 | From: Tucson, AZ | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged Joe Member Member # 118 posted February 21, 2003 02:05 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Costa also adds his distinctive piano to Hal McKusick's TRIPLE EXPOSURE (a portion of which appeared on the aforementioned BIRD FEATHERS) [ February 21, 2003: Message edited by: Joe ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 3888 | From: Dallas, TX USA | Registered: Apr 99 | IP: Logged Brownian Motion Member Member # 4117 posted February 21, 2003 05:25 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie was part of a studio orchestra on an album from 1961 or '62: "Jazz Goes to the Movies", arranged by Manny Albam. Johnny Coles was there too. I particularly remember "Exodus Theme" for very tasty work by both these musicians. -------------------- The World is Waiting for the Sunrise... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 69 | From: PA | Registered: Jan 2003 | IP: Logged Hank Member Member # 90 posted February 21, 2003 06:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Costa fan here. I heartily second & third all the recommendations, particularly House of Blue Lights, the Verve Farlows, and the Fuerst sessions. Have never heard the 57 Newport date, but I'm very interested. In addition, I'd like to mention two more quintet titles: Jazz on the Rocks by bassist Don Bagley, with Costa, Sal Salvador, Phil Woods, and Charlie Persip. I think it was done for Savoy, engineered by RVG. I have it on a nice-sounding disc from Blue Moon. The Nature of Things by Lenny Hambro, with Costa, and Sal Salvador and Barry Galbraith splitting the guitar chair. I think it was originally done for Epic; now available on Collectables

Not long at all, arrived today will digest and report back

That means, I will get mine in the UK in about 2 weeks

Just received "Snurdy McGurdy..." This is a great little album, just up my street. Incredible that its 20 years old as it sounds very fresh. Spaced out free balads to avant funk work outs, it work very well indeed. At first I thought it was a pity that Chuck hadn't unearthed any extras (it's only 40 mins long) but I see that as it stands it's way better than many overly long CDs. Small but perfectly formed. My first Nessa, anything else like it in Nessa stable ?

I love this set ( although not so impressed by some of the pop tunes in the last two albums). Particularly good to hear snatches of Joe Maini whose alto sound is just amazing, pity he didn't record more. Certainly this set is an obvious companion piece for the Jones Select set.

East Side Blues (DIW) highly recommended , from memory Curtis Lundy is featured , recorded in Tokyo, great sound .!!!!

Mr Jazz would you get this ahead of "Footsteps Live" as I have neither.??

The Green will be really tempting . I already have the "45s session" TOCJ and the "Soul Stirrin" Conn. so only 2 and a bit LPs worth of unfamiliar material. Having said that what I have already is some of the happiest swinging hardbop I have. It has a really good "feel good" factor about it. The Weston I am less sure about, I have the Roulette CD (African Hi Life and another session). The wacked out tourist trip to Africa of the first session does little for me. Not sure if these sessions are indicative of the quality of the rest though. Opinions?

Years ago I picked up "Musics for Prancing", one listen convinced me that I had to here as much Marsh as I could. He's very special IMO. Cant wait for Chucks reissue- hopefully soon ?

Fat Boy Hopkins, where are my parents

The disc Hank did with Elvin and George Mraz (Verve) which featured the compositions of brother Thad is one of my all time favourites (name alludes me). Love of this disc made me pre order the Thad BN Mosaic.

Lots of really good newish players out there. Of these newer palyers I particularly like Ethan Iverson David Berkman Jason Moran Dave Milligan Craig Taborn seeing Vijay Iyer on Thursday so he might make a challenge of the current top five. Also rans would be George Colligan, Esbjorn Svensson and Brian Kellock/ Chick Lyall from my neck of the woods. I suddenly realise how much piano I listen to.

Know what you mean. The spoken intro on "Lord Lord..." (Candid) gives me an impression of vunerable figure of great spirituality as you say at odds with a man reported to put other players down etc. I am not sure what it is about LT that makes his playing so attractive to my ears but I never tire of it in the way I do of some others such as Mobley, Getz, Golson etc

Thanks a lot Jim

I have avoided the LPR series from Verve because they appear so shoddy. The one I have Dizzy's "Afro" comes in a flimsy cheap looking cover with poor printing , the music is pretty good but the sound is quite harsh. I am no audiofile so it must be quite bad for me to complain. How is the sound the Mulligan issue and how likely is this box set ?

This is excellent, well done again

Lucky is one of the very few jazzers whose every piece of work I will try to collect. Unlike Jim I find the Groove Merchants the slightest of his latter work. This may be in part the haphazard CD releases I have one "Lucky Thompson" on LRC and the other "Yesterdays Child " on Musidisc. They share a number of tracks and lack even the most basic recodring information such as date or location etc. None the les worth hearing if you a Thompson nut like me. Looking forwar already to the "promised" MPS session later this year. There are three discs in the Jazz in Paris collection including the one with Sammy Price. All excellent.

Lucky surelky wasnt one of the first to viist Europe. Even the Original Dixieland Jass Band went there in the twenties and Coleman Hawkins and Bill Coleman some time after that. Lucky's best stuff was with Martial Solal in Europe 1956 on and his work with Oscar Pettiford . Lucky is truely an unrecognised great. The newish reissues on EMI France under the "Americans Swinging in Paris " banner are well worth checking out ( one in his name the other Kenny Clarke)- amazon.fr for availability

Over at the site previously known as BNBB Greg appears to be trying to flush out any remaining posters with his broom stick. He doesn't have appeared to have read the lengthy disclaimer at the top about being civil. That place looks real sick now. Hard to see it rehabilitating itself in a hurry.

we need to get all the old crew over here B) i like the functions , layout, but we need more posters

This a very good set. I have listened a lot to the third disc which includes the unissed session and the "Folk" session. The latter is particulary hard hitting and deserves the praise Chuck heeped on it.

Its on Warner recorded June 1980 at Village Vanguard, Mosaic had it as an LP only set some time back , an abbreviated version appeared on just 2CDs called The Artists choice or something deepdiscountcd have it for $75