Post-1960 Mosaic Sets

[Late]

There've been quite a few Mosaic sets containing recordings made in 1960 and later. While Mosaic's direction, with some notable exceptions, currently seems pointed toward pre-1960s recordings, what potential (and realistic) post-1960 sets would you like to see Mosaic release? 

[felser]

Complete 1970's Max Roach Quartet with Billy Harper.

[clifford_thornton]

Bill Barron as a leader

Bill Dixon as leader/producer for Savoy, or Savoy avant-garde in general

George Russell in Europe (Saba, Concept, Flying Dutchman). Could include Soul Notes too but not sure if CAM would license those...

[Late]

1 hour ago, felser said:

Complete 1970's Max Roach Quartet with Billy Harper.

Would love to see this set. (Would it contain late 60's recordings as well?)

1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said:

Bill Barron as a leader.

Bill Dixon as leader/producer for Savoy, or Savoy avant-garde in general.

Yes to both, particularly if the Barron set included Motivation, truly a hidden gem.

It does seem, however, that Mosaic is predominantly interested in mining swing-era recordings from the 30s and 40s—though there's nothing wrong with that. The Pharoah Sanders set would be a notable exception. The last Hank Mobley and recent Bobby Hutcherson sets would also be exceptions. The demand for post-1960 recordings—or is it label and/or contractual red tape—might realistically prevent box sets from this era being produced. Not entirely sure, but I'm always a little surprised when a new Mosaic of swing-era recordings is released. I don't mean to complain though—any new Mosaic is just cause for celebration.

[felser]

29 minutes ago, Late said:

Would love to see this set. (Would it contain late 60's recordings as well?)

I'm not aware of any which exist!

[colinmce]

The Bill Barron is a no-brainer

Warne Marsh - anything! private tapes, full session recordings, unreleased live recordings. I'm sure there's an angle here in the vein of the recent Tristano set

New Orleans Modern Jazz - something along the lines of a full reissue of the 1976 Opus box set New Orleans Heritage - Jazz: 1956-1966 (which features Ellis Marsalis/American Jazz Quintette recordings along with some others) expanded with contemporaneous and relevant music. This is maybe a little outside the scope of what Mosaic does, but I think there's some great potential

Always thought Mosaic could do something more with some of the newer BN material a la the Don Pullen and Tony Williams Selects. I think a box of Jason Moran's BN sessions would be great. In that vein a box of Geri Allen's Minor Music dates, possibly incorporating the Somethin' Else/BN material as well, would be really strong.

 

[HutchFan]

2 hours ago, felser said:

Complete 1970's Max Roach Quartet with Billy Harper.

Yes. This.

 

[jazzbo]

I would love to see a Lateef Impulse box set, either studio or live and studio.

[gmonahan]

I'd like to see a "complete label" set of Lionel Hampton's "Who's Who in Jazz" label from the 70s. Mingus did his last bass work for that label, but I seem to remember that the Hampton estate can be "Goodman-like" to deal with.

 

[mikeweil]

Revelation label sessions.

[JSngry]

5 hours ago, colinmce said:

The Bill Barron is a no-brainer

You would think...

[felser]

The Barron wouldn't sell enough outside of our board.

[B. Clugston]

Amen to the Barron and the Bill Dixon-related Savoy albums. A George Russell set would be cool, too.

Though the music straddles 1960, I'd love to see a Jimmy Giuffre Verve set. 

Anything by Mal Waldron.

If there's any unreleased tunes or alternates, an Ahmad Jamal on Impulse would be a nice set.

[Late]

3 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Revelation label sessions.

Yes!! That might actually be do-able, as Jonathan Horwich, who used to post here, has worked with Mosaic before.

Revelation Records

10 minutes ago, B. Clugston said:

Though the music straddles 1960, I'd love to see a Jimmy Giuffre Verve set.

I'd buy it. This one seems do-able too.

[JSngry]

49 minutes ago, felser said:

The Barron wouldn't sell enough outside of our board.

Do you have data to support this assertion? Or is that just speculation?

Please advise.

[Big Beat Steve]

10 hours ago, gmonahan said:

I'd like to see a "complete label" set of Lionel Hampton's "Who's Who in Jazz" label from the 70s. Mingus did his last bass work for that label, but I seem to remember that the Hampton estate can be "Goodman-like" to deal with.

 

I realize tastes do differ, but overall I find this series certainly not bad but a somewhat lukewarm affair. Many years ago I had a small number of them (that came my way almost by accident) but sold them off again at a time when I did not yet do this with items that were NOT duplicates. These LPs do not seem to be that rare in the secondhand bins either. So apart from the historial angle such as Mingus' last bass work being for that series I am not sure there is a huge market for these recordings given the Mosaic treatment at Mosaic prices. 
In hindsight somehow I also feel the radio man (who presented these newly-released records in a jazz radio show here) wasn't all wrong when he wondered publicly and with less than maximum appreciation what the producers behind this series (or Lionel Hampton) were possibly thinking with titles such as "Lionel Hampton presents Gerry Mulligan" - as if someone with the status of Gerry Mulligan needed to be presented by someone like Lionel Hampton - certainly a major figure too but no longer as hot in the running as Mulligan conceivably still was at that time. So ... a mixed bag, I'd say. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Big Beat Steve

[mhatta]

"The Complete Wayne Shorter Blue Note Studio Sessions" -- many of Wayne Shorter's Blue Note recordings have been reissued multiple times, but some haven't. He recently passed away, and this could sell well and contribute to Mosaic's finances. Besides, they've done similar projects with Joe Henderson and Bobby Hutcherson in recent years.

Night Dreamer
Juju
Speak No Evil
The Soothsayer
Et Cetera
The All Seeing Eye
Adam's Apple
Schizophrenia
Super Nova
Moto Grosso Feio
Odessey Of Iska

Many sessions are short, so perhaps around 10 CDs or such? Also, if possible, I'd like to see the rejected sessions (like the Odessey Of Iska sequel featuring McCoy Tyner for some reason) finally see the light of day.

[J.A.W.]

Licensing can be a problem, especially with multi-label sets and different rights holders; some rights holders are not keen to license out material for sets like that - or at all.

Edited 8 hours ago by J.A.W.

[clifford_thornton]

good call on the Revelation recordings, of which there are many. Perhaps starting with Gary Foster, Warne Marsh, and Dennis Budimir... It is too bad that Jonathan doesn't post here anymore, and that the Joe Daley expanded reissue did not materialize. 

Warne Marsh needs an assessment beyond the Atlantic set (Konitz/Tristano/Marsh), though of course we have many labels to choose from and licensing could be an issue.

[Bill Nelson]

Buddy DeFranco & Tommy Gumina Quintet (3 LPs on Mercury, 1962-64, and one on Decca, 1961).

As Johnny Carson might say, "That's some wild, wild stuff."

[Tom 1960]

22 hours ago, jazzbo said:

I would love to see a Lateef Impulse box set, either studio or live and studio.

I'd be in on that!

[Late]

11 hours ago, mhatta said:

"The Complete Wayne Shorter Blue Note Studio Sessions"—many of Wayne Shorter's Blue Note recordings have been reissued multiple times, but some haven't. He recently passed away, and this could sell well and contribute to Mosaic's finances. Besides, they've done similar projects with Joe Henderson and Bobby Hutcherson in recent years.

Also, if possible, I'd like to see the rejected sessions (like the Odessey Of Iska sequel featuring McCoy Tyner for some reason) finally see the light of day.

This set seems almost a matter of inevitability. I'm a little surprised it hasn't happened yet. I wonder if the Freddie Hubbard, Joe Henderson, Sonny Clark, and Bobby Hutcherson Mosaic sets are selling well?

The Kevin Gray remaster of Etcetera, reissued on compact disc in Japan, sounds really good—much better to my ears than the earlier Connoisseur release. The Soothsayer would likely benefit from a similar reissue.

I bet members of this board—who likely have all, or nearly all, of Shorter's Blue Note recordings—would be tempted to purchase this set IF it contained the unissued Because session. (But didn't Wayne say that he never wanted that recording made available to the public? If so, a shame.)

22 hours ago, jazzbo said:

I would love to see a Lateef Impulse box set, either studio or live and studio.

This set seems do-able too. I'd purchase it, even though I tend to listen to Lateef's pre-Impulse work more. That said, two of my favorite Lateef Impulse! records have never (I think) seen a digital reissue:

Edited 22 minutes ago by Late